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Tracer 2 Meter is here!!
- Thread starter Wayne
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Konrad- Thank you for the insight very helpful. I may be biting off more than I should. I have been flying rc planes for 17 years so not new to the hobby just new to slope soaring. Have a park 15 min from my house and a new friend that is showing me the ropes.
I run a spectrum NX10 and have programmed crow and etc on a few of my planes. So have the basics, but will be working with my friend.
Thanks for the video on the lDS system set up. For that sizing when looking at the kit for the X10mini it asks for 2 sizes. and not sure what that sizing refers to. was guessing push rod length but not sure of the second. If I went with the x10 mini and A08 what lDS kit would I need to select?
Wayne- Thank you! this is a huge helpJust took a closer look at the model.
I like the X10 Mini for the flap:
KST X10 Mini Wing Servo - 7.5Kg (104.16 oz in), .09sec - High Voltage
If the X10 is physically too big and the X08 is too low on torque the X10 mini might be just right. The X10 mini, like it's bigger brother the X10, sports an improved motor controller that's driving a coreless motor which in turn is spinning a minimal bacalofthobbies.com
The aileron bay is large enough and deep enough to handle a 10mm thick servo like the X10 Mini. (measured 9.78mm deep at the bottom of the pocket) But will be a little easier with the 8mm thick servos like the X08, X08+, HS08 or A08. So plenty of options there.
KST A08H - 3.2Kg (44.4 oz in), .09-sec 7g Wing Servo
KST presents the KST A08H, another great performing servo for a variety of uses. It may look similar to the well favored X08H, high voltage capable and with an 8mm thickness, but that is where the similarities end. Inside the CNC machined case is an upgraded set of gears, made with even tighter...
Fuselage would be fine with the 8mm servos as suggested by Konrad, or you could also go with something like a KST 315:
(I like the speed of this servo and similar sized servos for elevators.)
KST DS315MG Servo - 4.8Kg (66.6 oz in), .07-sec - High Voltage
KST has yet another awesome servo with the DS315MG. It is blistering fast even when run on 6 volts. A great servo for applications where high speed, precision and strength are needed.MOTOR TYPE:12mm CorelessSERVO TYPE:DigitalGEAR TYPE:MetalSTALL TORQUE2.8Kg.cm (38.88 oz-in)@4.8v | 3.5Kg.cm...alofthobbies.com
If you wanted to save weight you might focus on using just the HS08 or A08 family for every surface.
Lots of options.
Hope this helps.
thanks for measuring the kit for me. I did order the plane and will order the guts soon. Wasn't sure how quick of a response I would get. But you and Konrad were lightening fast. 
Konrad
Very Strong User
Great that you have experienced help. With slope flying it will take some getting use to the idea that the elevator doesn't make the model go up rather the elevator controls speed.
I'm still not sure about your IDS size question. The Servorahmen IDS can fit both the 30mm long X-10 mini and the 35mm long X-10.
IDS KST X10, X10 Mini Mono
The Integrated Drive System, aka IDS is the cutting edge method for mounting wing servos in high performance aircraft. The term mono refers to the single piece push rod that this style of IDS uses. The servo trays have an outboard ball bearing that helps to carry the servo shaft loads and...
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IDS KST X08 Mono
The Integrated Drive System, aka IDS is the cutting edge method for mounting wing servos in high performance aircraft. The servo trays have an outboard ball bearing that helps to carry the servo shaft loads and greatly reduces servo play. The result? Gr
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Konrad
Very Strong User
Hum, ok that is true of just about all heavier than air ships.
It is power/energy that makes a plane go up. Usually with the flat land stuff it is the thrust from the power plant that drive the plane vertically. With the gliders thermal and/or slope it is the energy in the air that makes the plane climb. The elevator turns speed into altitude by slowing down the ship, assuming you stay out of the stall.
This is often painfully demonstrated when you are low and slow scraping for altitude. Adding up elevator just results in sinking further down the face of the slope.
Wayne-Just took a closer look at the model.
I like the X10 Mini for the flap:
KST X10 Mini Wing Servo - 7.5Kg (104.16 oz in), .09sec - High Voltage
If the X10 is physically too big and the X08 is too low on torque the X10 mini might be just right. The X10 mini, like it's bigger brother the X10, sports an improved motor controller that's driving a coreless motor which in turn is spinning a minimal bac
The aileron bay is large enough and deep enough to handle a 10mm thick servo like the X10 Mini. (measured 9.78mm deep at the bottom of the pocket) But will be a little easier with the 8mm thick servos like the X08, X08+, HS08 or A08. So plenty of options there.
KST A08H - 3.2Kg (44.4 oz in), .09-sec 7g Wing Servo
KST presents the KST A08H, another great performing servo for a variety of uses. It may look similar to the well favored X08H, high voltage capable and with an 8mm thickness, but that is where the similarities end. Inside the CNC machined case is an upgraded set of gears, made with even tighter...
Fuselage would be fine with the 8mm servos as suggested by Konrad, or you could also go with something like a KST 315:
(I like the speed of this servo and similar sized servos for elevators.)KST DS315MG Servo - 4.8Kg (66.6 oz in), .07-sec - High Voltage
KST has yet another awesome servo with the DS315MG. It is blistering fast even when run on 6 volts. A great servo for applications where high speed, precision and strength are needed.MOTOR TYPE:12mm CorelessSERVO TYPE:DigitalGEAR TYPE:MetalSTALL TORQUE2.8Kg.cm (38.88 oz-in)@4.8v | 3.5Kg.cm...
If you wanted to save weight you might focus on using just the HS08 or A08 family for every surface.
Lots of options.
Hope this helps.
- For the X10 mini's LDS kit what servo length and size should be selected?
- And for the X08- it has Servo length and Control Horn height? (looks like Servo length of 4mm with a control horn of 4.5mm is all you have in stock. This the right size?)
Thanks,
Tim
Hi All. Maiden flight of my Tracer today and thought I would share a short video. I'm super happy!
Video is nothing special but I caught a nice ball of energy at around the 2 minute mark
Video link
https://youtu.be/6PEcBTGslXY
Video is nothing special but I caught a nice ball of energy at around the 2 minute mark
Video link
https://youtu.be/6PEcBTGslXY
Looks great! Great to see some video. Sweet slope too.
I can't tell if it was a bit of turbulence, or if you might need a bit of differential adjusted on the ailerons. Looked to be a bit of tail wag at times.
Looks like she carries the energy really well, and has a nice bit of sound as she comes up to speed. I really need to build one of these for myself.
I can't tell if it was a bit of turbulence, or if you might need a bit of differential adjusted on the ailerons. Looked to be a bit of tail wag at times.
Looks like she carries the energy really well, and has a nice bit of sound as she comes up to speed.
I really need to build one of these for myself.Looks great! Great to see some video. Sweet slope too.
I can't tell if it was a bit of turbulence, or if you might need a bit of differential adjusted on the ailerons. Looked to be a bit of tail wag at times.
Looks like she carries the energy really well, and has a nice bit of sound as she comes up to speed.
Thanks Wayne!
The lift/wind was a bit funky that day. It was only 8-10 mph with some gusts mixed in and I wasn't sure if it was even gonna fly. I was flying my soarkraft roughgen right before the tracer and I was having a hard time keeping it up but to my surprise the Tracer flew pretty good. The next time I get to fly it I'll definitely play around with the diff. I'm a noob so appreciate any tips
Jake
agarchitect
Strong User
agarchitect
Strong User
I have one in each color, so I can mix and match.
Thanks for accommodating the custom colors.
Thanks for accommodating the custom colors.
Shoelace
Very Strong User
Hell no. Keep ‘em coming.
