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X9E, Getting to know you

Konrad

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I finally got the real replacement for my grand old ladies, the Multiplex Profi mc 4000v2. That is the FrSky X9E. The X9E has much the same programing power and layout.
https://alofthobbies.com/frsky-taranis-x9e.html

I need to make it clear that the real power of the Profi was in the object based programing structure, none of this master slave stuff. You define what inputs you want to control what output. It was a bit disconcerting to power up the Profi for the first time and nothing worked as you had't defined what was what. But after that shock one quickly learned how liberating the freedom was with the Profi's programing architecture.


Four years ago when I learned of OpenTX I just had to have it as the Profi was no longer available in the USA. Fr-Sky was the only radio I knew of that ran this powerful program. Coming from a Multiplex background I choose to buy Fr-Sky's high end radio the Taranis-plus. The Taranis-plus with OpenTX was such a game changer that I was actually able to sell 3 other units to my flying partners. They liked the Japanese style transmitter but hated pizza box look of the Profi, so it was a no brainer getting them to move to FrSky.


Now as is typical of my buying history the perfect product comes on the market after I've made my purchase. A few months after I bought the Taranis-plus FrSky introduced the X9E. So for the last four years I've been pining for the X9E tray style OpenTX radio! As luck would have it I was in Aloft Hobbies and saw buried under a pile of UPS boxes a customer return X9E. After a protracted negotiation period that lasted milliseconds I came home with my own X9E.

Being able to look at the X9E side by side with the Profi 4000 I was pleasantly surprised at how good the X9E really is. This is even more amazing as the X9E is a $300 radio and the Profi 4000 was a $1200 in 1992!

Both radios have RF modules with plug in bays. Both have removable palm pads. Both use no solder plug in switches. Both have face sliders (Profi has indexable feedback indicators). Both have retractable harness arms (X9E fully retractable). Both have metal sticks (I like the sharper ones of the X9E)

The X9E has adjustable stick tension by a screw. The Profi has you change the springs to adjust the tension.
The X9E has ball bearing supported gimbals. The Profi does not.
The X9E has side sliders the Profi does not
The X9E comes with a cross backed support harness. The Profi comes with a camera style neck strap.
The X9E has a light high capacity 8 cell 2000mAh Ni-mh battery. This makes the X9E over 50 grams lighter.
The Profi came with a heavy 6 cell Sanyo 1800 mAh SCE NiCad battery (needed to balance the long 72 mHz antenna).
The Profi has a snap on snap off back. The X9E uses 4 screws.

Wow, from an ergonomic perspective the X9E trounces the Profi! The only strong points for the Profi are the snap on, snap off back and indexable feedback indicators on the face sliders.

Now when I was at Aloft Hobbies I was a bit perplexed as to why Fr-Sky had two screens. Well it pains me to show this, but the reason is that some off us have bellies that block the bottom screen. Fr Sky added the upper screen to provide the needed information one might want to know at a glance while flying. (Yes, that is my belly blocking the screen!)

While I think the tray style radio is a superior ergonomic set up. The classic Japanese hand held chrome porcupine can be made almost as good with the use of a neck strap. If you have the opportunity to fly a tray give it a try. I'm sure after an hour you will want a tray radio for yourself. But short of a new radio please try flying with a neck strap. Your control of the sticks will be so much more precise when your hands aren't holding the weight of the radio.

All the best,
Konrad


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Are you still enjoying your X9E?
I'm thinking about investing in one at this moment. I had a MPX 3030 many years ago and still kind of miss it. It was replaced by a Royal Evo 9 which I liked a little better for DLG. I just recently got back into RC and discovered my Evo 9 (I was going to convert it to 2.4) was not supported in the US anymore. I now have a Q7 which I will keep for DLG but kinda like the format of the X9E. Hopefully support won't dry up for it anytime soon.
(the jury is still out as to whether I will be able to see the lower screen;))
Regards,
Dale
 
Actually I like it better than the Profi 4000. I really like the side sliders. I like these a lot more than I like the ones on the X9D+. The X9D+ has them a bit low (too close) to the gimbals for my liking. But I'm trainable, I hope.

For DLG work the X9E is horrable! I'd get the new X box, oops sorry, X-Lite.
https://alofthobbies.com/taranis-xlite.html

I have a Spektumized Evo12 that worked fine. The issue with that is that it is only DSM compliant.

I think Fr-Sky has a DIY RF unit you can install into the Evo 9 if you want to keep with the same programing actitecture you are use too. But yes it is time to move away from Multiplex in the USA, now that FrSky and Aloft Hobbies are here.
 
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Good to know. Sliders on the side will be a real benefit to me. I sold my Evo 9 and that's why I ended up with my Q7. I think I like it even better than the Evo 9 especially for DLG. I did like the way the buttons were positioned on the Evo though and it had good ergonomics. Anyway, from the looks of it I'm tending to go with the X9E instead of the X10 but it's a close call.
 
X9E vs the X10 other than the form factor with the tray radio the X 10 is the better radio. And as you can buy trays and or use a neck strap the X10 is the radio to get. Now as I (and I think you) have some history with the profi we might like the feel of the X9E but that is about it. As you are comfortable with the Q7 I'd go for an X10 myself. It is more radio than the X9E. Now if I find a customer return at Aloft of an X10 I'll buy it. Love the X9E but the X10 is the better radio mainly for the dual diversity antennae. And some would add the gimbals are also better.
 
Well, I decided to treat myself to upgraded Gimbals. We really are lucky that Aloft offers a Gimbal upgrade kit for the X9E.
https://alofthobbies.com/m9-gimbal-kit-for-the-x9e.html

While I like FrSky I'd hate to try the sell or service them. This is because they don't appear to have a system in place to control configuration changes (change control). Just look at these M9R gimbals. One has a flat mounting plate, while the other has a threaded boss (2mm stand off on the same feature). Yet these are to fit the same radio!
https://alofthobbies.com/frsky-m9r-throttle-gimbal-black.html
https://alofthobbies.com/m9r-throttle-gimbal-red.html

You can read about my issues (minor) with the upgrade to the Hall effect M-9 gimbals here.
https://forum.alofthobbies.com/index.php?threads/x9e-upgrade.485/

Please note this is an Aloft Hobbies upgrade kit, and as such they (Aloft Hobbies) is at the mercy of FrSky should FrSky change ether the M-9 or the X9E.

All the best,
Konrad
 
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