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Whats your day job?

Semi retired Chiropractor & Viticulturist. Only about 25 minutes from Aloft! What is more important is we all seem to share a common interest in things that fly regardless of our occupation.
 
I drive...a lot..

They call it a freight relication specialist.

I call it Truck Driver....I can't wait for retirement...
That would have to be a Freight Relocation ENGINEER Tex, I mean EVERYONE is an engineer these days.

Gottabe an ENGINEER.

I mean you have Detritus Removal ENGINEERS, Transparent Wall Maintenance ENGINEERS, Postal Data Handling ENGINEERS, News Media Delivery ENGINEERS etc.

Me?

Today, I'm taking a rest from Fluid dynamics, so I'm a Dendro-Conversion Engineer.

Just a-carvin' and a-wittlin' dat wood...

Doc.
 
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Been building & flying models for over 60 years and flying full size aircraft over 50 years. Models are a great way to get kids interested in aviation & possibly become pilots. I had bad eyesight so that ruled out the airlines for me. Got a profession where I could afford to fly & have the time to enjoy it. When I discovered Aloft, they became my “new best friends”!

This is actually an interesting topic as we will discover the diversity among us but the common bond we share in model aviation.
 
Hey Tic - I bet it must be nice to TOTALLY forget about flight schedules!

Doc.
Actually as a corporate pilot, there was no firm flight schedule. I was "on call" 24/7/365...Most flights I knew about in advance but the CEO's mother falls down the stairs at the old folks home 1,000mi. away? scramble the flight dept. Oh it's Thanksgiving? Gee, we're so sorry about that, maybe your wife can re-heat your dinner when we get back. Just not being "on call" has lowered my blood pressure significantly.
 
Actually as a corporate pilot, there was no firm flight schedule. I was "on call" 24/7/365...Most flights I knew about in advance but the CEO's mother falls down the stairs at the old folks home 1,000mi. away? scramble the flight dept. Oh it's Thanksgiving? Gee, we're so sorry about that, maybe your wife can re-heat your dinner when we get back. Just not being "on call" has lowered my blood pressure significantly.
Know what you mean; my oldest son is a corporate pilot and he is always on call!
Raymond
 
I flew as a corporate pilot for 30 years. Started out as a co-pilot in an old Piper Cheyenne 2 turboprop after "paying dues" as a flight instructor for almost 2 years. Retired now and have FAR more fun flying models. Unfortunately, as I've progressed in the hobby, I keep wanting more and more expensive planes and hardware to go in them. I have spent way more than is reasonable in the last 10 years.
I always thought the Cheyenne was a cool looking twin with the big props barely clearing the ground -
 
Hi all-

Firstly, to echo Raymond's thoughts on the forum: this user enjoys the advice and community as well. Makes the sport a lot more fun - if I could only find some people in my backyard to fly with...

Like some have also done, I am a jack of all trades having worked in the US, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, Spain doing all kinds of jobs - importing luxury autos, running a help desk for a global bank - I now sell IT consulting services to medium to large companies. I am a CFI (in name only) and have the commercial and multi-engine land tickets (in name only) - I really just fly 172s now, but I'm slowly getting out of that - the planes are just getting old and the gas is getting expensive - this hobby does a decent job of taking the edge off wanting to fly the real planes - good to know a bit more of our forum mates, so thanks to whomever started this post
 
I hear you on the cost of flying. I have my Glastar project and I really should sell it on as I really do not see a future where I'll be able to afford finish it and fly it. The fuel costs alone would probably ruin the fun of flying for me. :( I occasionally think about some sort of Ultralight to get my fix. Something like a Airbike has always been on my list.

I have always found the love of aviation an interesting character trait. It "attracts" certain people and tends to be in their blood their entire life. Sometimes it is just an enjoyment of aviation topics, for some they are able to make it into a career path, and many others just enjoy being around them. I guess in a way I am a bit of all of those. The interesting thing is that the VAST majority of people stricken with the aviation bug are extremely nice people that are very honest, and generally do not have ego issues. Sure, there is a small percentage of jerks, but it is far less than in other hobbies. Community tends to run very strong in aviation circles. I have for sure discovered this lesson with the business.

When we started selling drone and FPV gear we started to attract a different customer base. And we ran into issues with credit card fraud and similar issues that we never had before. This was HUGE in the cameras we sold. Talking with other hobby shops around the globe, they have had similar experiences. Not many issues with fixed wing aircraft customers, but when they branched out to RC cars, cameras and other products that sold to a wider range of customers they all had to adjust to the higher (normal?) levels of attempted fraud.

I love aviation gatherings. Be it RC models or full scale, the audience is very much the same. They are relaxed and easy going bunch of folks that generally just get along. I have gone to Oshkosh a couple of times now and I love it. I always tell people they should attend at some point as it is a magical place where you are surrounded by so many like minded people. Flight Fest, Sunset State Beach, etc are very similar, just smaller.

At Oshkosh you get around the place in old school buses, it is HOT and HUMID and the busses have no A/C. You waint in line for them, then crowd onto a pretty full bus. If this was just a normal event everyone in that buss would be horrible, but since it is Oshkosh everyone is pretty darn happy, and you end up having a great conversation with whoever is sitting near you. It might be a might be a WWII pilot, or some guy that flew in a Cessna, or just some guy that loves availation. You never know, but they all have stupid smiles plastered on their faces despite the heat, lines and probably poor sleeping conditions. It is all GREAT. This is how I feel at just about any aviation gathering I have ever attended.

Sorry, not sure where I am going with this.. Just saying we are lucky this is the thing that grabs our attention. :)
 
I hear you on the cost of flying. I have my Glastar project and I really should sell it on as I really do not see a future where I'll be able to afford finish it and fly it. The fuel costs alone would probably ruin the fun of flying for me. :( I occasionally think about some sort of Ultralight to get my fix. Something like a Airbike has always been on my list.

I have always found the love of aviation an interesting character trait. It "attracts" certain people and tends to be in their blood their entire life. Sometimes it is just an enjoyment of aviation topics, for some they are able to make it into a career path, and many others just enjoy being around them. I guess in a way I am a bit of all of those. The interesting thing is that the VAST majority of people stricken with the aviation bug are extremely nice people that are very honest, and generally do not have ego issues. Sure, there is a small percentage of jerks, but it is far less than in other hobbies. Community tends to run very strong in aviation circles. I have for sure discovered this lesson with the business.

When we started selling drone and FPV gear we started to attract a different customer base. And we ran into issues with credit card fraud and similar issues that we never had before. This was HUGE in the cameras we sold. Talking with other hobby shops around the globe, they have had similar experiences. Not many issues with fixed wing aircraft customers, but when they branched out to RC cars, cameras and other products that sold to a wider range of customers they all had to adjust to the higher (normal?) levels of attempted fraud.

I love aviation gatherings. Be it RC models or full scale, the audience is very much the same. They are relaxed and easy going bunch of folks that generally just get along. I have gone to Oshkosh a couple of times now and I love it. I always tell people they should attend at some point as it is a magical place where you are surrounded by so many like minded people. Flight Fest, Sunset State Beach, etc are very similar, just smaller.

At Oshkosh you get around the place in old school buses, it is HOT and HUMID and the busses have no A/C. You waint in line for them, then crowd onto a pretty full bus. If this was just a normal event everyone in that buss would be horrible, but since it is Oshkosh everyone is pretty darn happy, and you end up having a great conversation with whoever is sitting near you. It might be a might be a WWII pilot, or some guy that flew in a Cessna, or just some guy that loves availation. You never know, but they all have stupid smiles plastered on their faces despite the heat, lines and probably poor sleeping conditions. It is all GREAT. This is how I feel at just about any aviation gathering I have ever attended.

Sorry, not sure where I am going with this.. Just saying we are lucky this is the thing that grabs our attention. :)
Great observation Wayne and not surprised to hear about the other demographics - when I tell non-aviators that you can land a plane at a rural airport and take the courtesy car for free (with the keys dangling from the visor) they are absolutely gob-smacked - it's part of the community I guess-

Instead of an ultralight have you considered a paraglider?
 
My good friend will not allow me to fly under a bag. LOL (He was a hang glider pilot and saw too many chute accidents.) I hear similar from a number of ultralight folks. Trust me, I was very tempted at one time. That and don't I think my old body can deal with the running launches. (Paramotor) We have an RC paramotor in the shop, it is sort of fun, but honestly really limited in what it can do, and the random chute closures are eye opening. (Yes, a modern para wing is far better, but they still collapse.)

Got to love how portable and compact they are.
 
Actually as a corporate pilot, there was no firm flight schedule. I was "on call" 24/7/365...Most flights I knew about in advance but the CEO's mother falls down the stairs at the old folks home 1,000mi. away? scramble the flight dept. Oh it's Thanksgiving? Gee, we're so sorry about that, maybe your wife can re-heat your dinner when we get back. Just not being "on call" has lowered my blood pressure significantly.
Having been 'on call' - though in an entirely different situation and environment, Tic - I can understand that!

Innit nice to do exactly what WE want to do from time to time? :cool:

Doc.
 
I hear you on the cost of flying. I have my Glastar project and I really should sell it on as I really do not see a future where I'll be able to afford finish it and fly it. The fuel costs alone would probably ruin the fun of flying for me. :( I occasionally think about some sort of Ultralight to get my fix. Something like a Airbike has always been on my list.

I have always found the love of aviation an interesting character trait. It "attracts" certain people and tends to be in their blood their entire life. Sometimes it is just an enjoyment of aviation topics, for some they are able to make it into a career path, and many others just enjoy being around them. I guess in a way I am a bit of all of those. The interesting thing is that the VAST majority of people stricken with the aviation bug are extremely nice people that are very honest, and generally do not have ego issues. Sure, there is a small percentage of jerks, but it is far less than in other hobbies. Community tends to run very strong in aviation circles. I have for sure discovered this lesson with the business.

When we started selling drone and FPV gear we started to attract a different customer base. And we ran into issues with credit card fraud and similar issues that we never had before. This was HUGE in the cameras we sold. Talking with other hobby shops around the globe, they have had similar experiences. Not many issues with fixed wing aircraft customers, but when they branched out to RC cars, cameras and other products that sold to a wider range of customers they all had to adjust to the higher (normal?) levels of attempted fraud.

I love aviation gatherings. Be it RC models or full scale, the audience is very much the same. They are relaxed and easy going bunch of folks that generally just get along. I have gone to Oshkosh a couple of times now and I love it. I always tell people they should attend at some point as it is a magical place where you are surrounded by so many like minded people. Flight Fest, Sunset State Beach, etc are very similar, just smaller.

At Oshkosh you get around the place in old school buses, it is HOT and HUMID and the busses have no A/C. You waint in line for them, then crowd onto a pretty full bus. If this was just a normal event everyone in that buss would be horrible, but since it is Oshkosh everyone is pretty darn happy, and you end up having a great conversation with whoever is sitting near you. It might be a might be a WWII pilot, or some guy that flew in a Cessna, or just some guy that loves availation. You never know, but they all have stupid smiles plastered on their faces despite the heat, lines and probably poor sleeping conditions. It is all GREAT. This is how I feel at just about any aviation gathering I have ever attended.

Sorry, not sure where I am going with this.. Just saying we are lucky this is the thing that grabs our attention. :)
Wayne,
You might check out full scale soaring. You have some world class sites very near you, for example Calistoga. Check out the National Soaring Association. All instruction is free and most clubs charge only a modest glider rental fee and a small charge for AeroTow. If you are a club member, you are expected to donate some time being a wing runner on launches or other such duty. On the whole, it’s a lot of fun and very safe (a student pilot can solo at age 14) and the only medical exam required is a self proclaimed statement that you consider yourself safe to fly a glider.
I was trained to fly hang gliders by Dr. Rogalo himself at Jockey’s Ridge, NC. On a good day the Rogalo Wing had a glide ratio of about 4:1. On a bad day it was a lawn dart. I became a rated hang glider pilot but my better judgement took over when it came time to jump off a mountain in the Smokey Mountains. I saw too many hang glider accidents and at that time most of the world record holders were deceased from hang glider accidents. Full scale soaring is much much safer.
I enjoyed it for years but must say I think I enjoy RC just a tad bit better!
Best,
Raymond Gaskins
 
I always thought the Cheyenne was a cool looking twin with the big props barely clearing the ground -
The Cheyenne 400 LS was a real pilots plane with the 1,000 HP Garrett turbines and huge dowty props. Chuck Yeager set various time to climb records in a 400LS back in the 80's. That thing would peg the VSI with little effort on the initial climb. Service ceiling was FL 410! Comparable performance to the Cessna Citation Jet but burned way less kerosene. I think Piper only made about 200 of them. 500 of the smaller less powerful Cheyenne 2 were made but they were really fun turboprops too. Less than 100 of the Cheyenne 3's were ever made
 
Problem with Aviation in general is actually too many possible projects, or sectors or aviation types from bag planes to F22's etc etc and they ar ALL so darn interesting. What makes it worse is that there are mostly a lot of really nice people too.

Presented with so many opportunites I suppose its a hard thing to settle on one specific area and do it well, but we more or less have to.

But...its a really nice problem to have!

Doc.
 
The Cheyenne 400 LS was a real pilots plane with the 1,000 HP Garrett turbines and huge dowty props. Chuck Yeager set various time to climb records in a 400LS back in the 80's. That thing would peg the VSI with little effort on the initial climb. Service ceiling was FL 410! Comparable performance to the Cessna Citation Jet but burned way less kerosene. I think Piper only made about 200 of them. 500 of the smaller less powerful Cheyenne 2 were made but they were really fun turboprops too. Less than 100 of the Cheyenne 3's were ever made
I had no idea the service ceiling was that high!
 
The Cheyenne 400 LS is a good looking bird. I'll admit I had to look it up.
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My buddy decided to jump into aviation a little late in life. It has been interesting to watch his progress. He started off renting planes and about 10 hours in he knew this was a thing for him so he bought an old Money 20C and got his tickets in that plane when possible. I think he flew around 500 hours a year at one point. Luckily he had his own business to help support this. He then worked for a jump school to build time and get paid for it. This lead to a while working charter and then jumped into airline. The Covid period didn't allow him to fly much, but it allowed him a lot of home time with his young family. He is now going off for his captain rating with SkyWest. He still has his business, but it is no longer the primary as the airline gig finally pays the bills.

He likes to call and tell me about the stupid things that happen in charter/airline life and I always would respond with "hashtag Pilot Life". The life of the low hour pilot getting started and building time is not a great experience.

I will say that Skywest has worked out really well for him. He was able to secure SFO as his home base almost right away, so he would spend time at our house, and after maybe 2 months he was able to transfer over to his home airport. This eased the family life greatly. He has been there since. sadly his Mooney now collects dust in a hangar. He should probably sell it, but he is attached to it, and finally has it all upgraded with new interior and new paint, and modern avionics. They are good planes that don't drink the fuel too fast.

P.S. He has an architecture degree, worked that for a while and found it boring. He ended up falling back on one of his other passions, 4x4 adventures and started his business doing custom fabrication where he did many things but primarily competition rock crawlers and was crew chief for the Red Bull team. This changed more into a small manufacturer of jeep parts and this is what his business is today. Currently has a new Bronco on order as he would like to develop some parts for it. He rarely does just one thing, usually has his eye on several things and does them all pretty darn well. He is also in boats, powered and sail.

Sorry, that was sort of off topic, but sort of following a buddies career.
 
I enjoyed it for years but must say I think I enjoy RC just a tad bit better!
Raymond you have hit the nail on the head. For most of my life I have wanted to get into full scale aviation, but my life always took me in different directions. For a long time RC was just a stepping stone, or that is what I thought. I have always gotten a lot out of RC, but always had bigger ambitions.

Only recently when I really look at the big picture have I realized that I have never taken the step into full scale because I REALLY enjoy what I get out of RC. I think I have only had this realization in the last 5 years or so. It has been such a core goal of mine that even today I still have desires and dreams, but I have really come to embrace the RC hobby much more. It is my home, it is my constant. Nothing excites me more than this hobby. A new RC project really fills my brain and my heart with goodness.

I'll add that I also enjoy Aloft, in a way it is also a hobby and something I really enjoy.
 
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