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Slow Stick Build and Modifications by Robert B.

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Robert asked me to post up his very detailed Slow Stick build as he was having some issues getting it posted. He should chime in here.

The attached photo shows my Slow Stick that weighs 16.0 ounces. This is at the very low end of the GWS recommended weight range. It includes a 2.6 oz 1300 mAh 2S LiPo battery, a pair of 3 inch 20 gram wheels, a redesigned main landing gear and a tail wheel. I fly off of grass so I wanted the wider diameter 3 inch wheels along with a substantially stronger landing gear.

The landing gear design incorporates a adjustable rubber band. Changing the tension allows you the user to vary the gear stiffness / flexibility to suit your specific needs (see photo). Since this is the most significant modification and requires special soldering and bending expertise, it will be discussed in more detail than the other modifications. These other modifications were made primarily for simplicity, to save some weight and for improving appearance. A list of the necessary build materials and equipment required to make these modifications are presented at the end of this article.
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Wing Build
To save 9 grams of weight the fiberglass leading edge and trailing edge rods were replaced with 3 mm carbon fiber tubes and bamboo skewers respectively. The carbon fiber tubes also increased wing stiffness. The two carbon rods (leading edge) should be the length of the long fiberglass rods. The two trailing edge skewers should be the length of the short fiberglass rods. Sort through your bag of skewers and select two that are straight and the correct diameter. Start by using epoxy to secure the carbon tubes and skewers into the aluminum joiners. To ensure the specified dihedral angle of 10 degrees is obtained do the following: Hold one of the carbon fiber rods flat on the bench and measure the height of the tip of the other carbon rod above the bench. It should be 3.35 inches. If not bend the aluminum joiner. Do the same with the skewer assembly except it should be 1.54 inches high. Let the leading and trailing edge assemblies dry over night. When dry lay each flat on the bench and check to be sure that the two assemblies are both at the same angle. If they are not bend the aluminum joiner. Complete by taking a Sharpie and mark a narrow line at the center of each aluminum joiner. Next take an 1/8 inch rat-tail file and cut a 1/16 inch deep channel along the wing leading edge and trailing edge. This sounds hard to do but you will find it is quite easy to do and saves assembly time. Use the tapered portion of the file to cut about a 1/32 inch channel that is centered between the two skins. Don’t worry to much about depth variations. Just concentrate on keeping the channel centered. Now hold the file between your thumb and center finger. Place the file in the channel and slide the file fore and aft to cut the channel to the desired depth.

The leading and trailing edge assemblies can now be attached to the wing.
Place the wing vertical on your bench with the trailing edge flat on the face of the table. Place a couple of quart paint cans on each side of the center section to hold the wing in place. Trial fit the leading edge with the mark at the center line of the wing. If necessary deepen the channel where the aluminum joiner attaches to the wing. Use a tooth pick to place a small amount of epoxy to attach aluminum joiner. To save weight use E60000 along the rest of the leading edge channel. To keep the leading edge in place and centered use several 3 inch long pieces of clean release tape aligned perpendicular to the leading edge. Next reposition the wing on the bench so that the trailing edge is up and the leading edge is flat on the bench. Follow the same procedure on the trailing edge.

The clear plastic center section was then attached with epoxy. This was both ugly and heavy. Not a good combination. If you have other glue recommendations they would be appreciated. A black Sharpie was used to color the outline of the ailerons, skewers and the aluminum center joiners. Don’t color prior to gluing or you will not get a good glue joint. Mark a black CG line 4.125 inches back from the leading edge. The model flew best using this CG position. Make a CG holding jig from the GWS flashing (see first photo) as it will make balancing the model much easier.

Horizontal Tail and Rudder
Built to GWS plan except a spacer gage was used to better align and keep the hinge line straight and equally spaced. The gage was made by cutting a long narrow strip of material from a 0.020 inch thick piece of cardboard . Lay the tail and rudder on your bench and use some weights to hold the four parts in place. I found that a couple of socks filled with spare coins and sealed with a plastic tie wrap makes excellent weights. They won’t damage the foam. Next use the gage to establish a consistent hinge gap of 0.020 inches and lay down the first strip of wing tape. Per the GWS instructions fold the control surfaces over one another. But then place the gage between the two surfaces close to the hinge line prior to taping the final two edges. This will provide a stronger and more flexible hinge.
 

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Rear Fuselage Assembly
The GWS design uses a two piece carbon fiber boom design that has a coupler that is a good tight fit. I decided to use this feature to my advantage. A single screw is all that is required to attach the two boom pieces. This feature allows the use of the rear boom as a self contained control assembly. The assembly contains the rudder, elevator, servos, servo push rods and tail landing gear. The real advantage of this assembly is that it can be removed from the build while the front of the fuselage is being assembled or even repaired after a crash. A lot of hanger rash is also avoided.

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Recommend E6000 glue be used to attach the servos directly on the boom. This glue is strong, semi-flexible and will not damage your servo cases if they need to be removed. For added strength the servo glue area was increased by attaching a piece of 1/8 inch thick balsa that is the length of the servos and the width of the boom between the two servos. Use DAP glue to attach the balsa just aft of the joiner on the bottom of the boom. The bottom of the servos are mounted flush with the bottom of this balsa block. The side of the servos are mounted flush with the back edge of the joiner. Use a vice to lightly hold the servos in place while the E6000 glue cures. Just don’t over tighten the vice.

Complete the rear fuselage assembly by mounting the rear landing gear along with its plastic attachment. Do so prior to permanently attaching the ruder and elevator with E6000 cement. If the shown tail wheel is to be used the gear wire will need to be modified to incorporate the larger wheel. The original push rod wire guides are not needed and should be removed The push rods were fabricated from the 0.047 music wire. The rest of this assembly was built per the GWS instructions.

Using the Mini Torch and honing solder skills
To build the modified gear a $12.00 Mini Torch or a very large soldering iron and STAY-BRITE Solder (also labeled as bearing solder) is required. This solder has a low 430 degree Fahrenheit melting point. It is not as strong as silver solder but is five times stronger than standard solder. Standard solder is not strong enough for this application. I recently noticed that Home Depot has 430 degree bearing solder and flux for only $6.00. I have no experience with this solder but the internet quotes modelers who clam it is adequate for this application. The torch Is a quality product for the money. It is well suited for the task at hand. It is not a toy and must be handled with care. Be carefully to avoid burning yourself. The blue flame is very hot and difficult to see especially during ignition. To ignite the torch set the Gas Dial at mid range. Rotate the Air Ring so that the orifice is half open. Pull the Safety Edge down and press the Trigger rapidly.

We will practice our soldering skills by tinning the ends of a couple of 1/16 inch diameter wires that are about 6 inches long. Most bad soldering joints are the result of the wrong temperature, wrong flux or dirty parts. The tinted wires will be shinny and bright if you have a good solder joint. Use only enough solder to cover the joint and avoid solder globs. Start by placing a couple sheets of paper towels on your work surface along with all of the required items: acetone, solder, flux, torch, disposable rubber gloves, some extra sheets of paper towels, and the two 1/16 inch diameter wires. Put on the gloves and avoid touching the wires with your bare hands or the contaminated wire will not tin. Take some emery paper and sand about a inch at the end of each wire to remove any oxidation. Clean the wire with acetone and clamp one of the wires horizontally in a vice. Ignite the torch and start heating the wire. The flame should make contact about one to two blue cone lengths away from the wire. Move the torch along the wire tip to heat it evenly for about a half minute. Remove the flame and touch the solder to the wire to see if it is hot enough to melt. Avoid touching the solder directly to the flame. Continue to follow this procedure to heat the wire until the solder starts to melt when it makes contact with the wire. At that point pull the solder away from the wire and continue to heat the wire for a few seconds. Remove the flame and flow the solder on the end of the wire. If your wire turns even light red it is way too hot. If you are having problems search the internet on how to solder a model airplane landing gear. I have found that it is a lot easier to use a solder iron than a torch for tinning. The iron will probably, however, not have enough heat for the final soldering task. One major advantage of a soldering iron is that you can’t over heat the metal. We will now fabricate the landing gear wires.
 
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Modifying the Original Landing Gear and fabricating the Wire Cross Member
The GWS axles will have to be extended to 1.0 inch to accept the wider DU-BRO wheels and collar. This can best be done by removing the original GWS axle bend i.e. straighten the wire. Prior to doing this place the original right axle of the GWS landing gear horizontal in the right side of a vice jaw. Align the wire strut in a plane parallel to the floor. Position the u so it is facing upward. Clamp it in this position. Notice that the original wire strut was simply bent forward at about a 45 degree angle. Suggest you take a picture of this set up so you can duplicate it after you straighten and make the bend on your landing gear wire. Would also recommend you do the same thing by mounting the left axle on the left side of the vice. Follow the same procedure including taking a picture.

Straighten the GWS wire by placing one of the original axles along with a couple inches off the corresponding strut wire in a vice and close it to partially straighten the wire. Continue to rotate and squeeze the wire in the vice jaws to make it as straight as possible. Then take a brass hammer and pound the wire on the flat portion of the vice. This will further straighten the wire. Next take a piece of 1/8 diameter brass tubing and make two 1.0 inch long wheel bushings. Take one of these bushings and see if it will slide onto the straightened wire. If it does not fit continue to straighten the wire till it does. It will later be permanently attached with epoxy. Now do the same with the other side of the landing gear. The wire struts now needs to be re-bent to form the horizontal portion of the axles. While looking at your picture mount the right wire strut in the right side of the vice so it is horizontal with its end sticking 1.0 inches straight into the vice. When you are satisfied with the orientation hold the strut and start the 45 degree forward bend in the horizontal plane by lightly tapping the wire on the back side while applying hand bend pressure. When this is completed perform the same bend procedure to form the left axle by mounting it on the left side of the vice.

Now take the formed landing gear wire and clamp the u shaped end in the vice. Take a pair of pliers and bend the two strut wires forward about 5 degrees. This will help tracking. Trial fit the landing gear by temporarily sliding the u portion of the modified landing gear assembly into the slot of the front wing plastic piece and mount it on the boom. Also place the bushings on the wires along with the two wheels and retainers. Check to see that the wheels are vertical, towed inward about 3 degrees, the same forward distance and equally spaced outward. If they are not the gear must be re-bent until they are. Small adjustments can be made by bending the gear while in the slot. Larger deviations are best performed outside of the slot to avoid damaging the plastic mount. This procedure must be completed now because it will be very difficult to make any bend changes after the cross member is soldered to it.


Cross Wire Fabrication (see photo)
Cut about a 18 inch piece of wire from the 1/16 inch music wire. At its center use a wire bending jig to bend a one and a quarter loop around a 3/8 inch diameter steel rod. Adjust the loop so that the two cross wires are about90 degrees apart. If you don’t have a wire jig a pair of needle nose pliers can be used to perform a satisfactory job.

Lay the previously modified GWS landing gear wire flat on your bench. With the u bend facing up. Place black marks 1.5 inches above each of the horizontal axles. Lay the cross member on top of the GWS landing gear. The loop needs to be centered and its top point should be about 1.0 inches below the bottom of the u. Next take your black Sharpie and draw a line on each of the cross member wires where they intersect the two struts. Measure the distance these two lines are from the center of the u. If they are not equal modify the 90 degree bend so they are. Next bend the two cross member wires at the two marks so they are inside of the struts and parallel to them. When you are satisfied with your bends cut off the excess cross member wires so that they are about 0.4 inches above the axles. This should leave about a one inch of length that can be soldered to. Tin this one inch length of wire on each side of the two landing gear wires just like you did with the sample pieces of wire. If you previously had success using a solder iron for tinning use it.

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Prepare the copper wire that will be used for wraps by taking a 18 inch long piece and clamping about a inch in a vice. Take a pair of pliers and grab the other end and pull hard on the wire. You need to pull the wire hard enough to stretch it and make it straight. While holding in this position take some emery paper and remove any oxidation or coating from the wire until it is shiny. Do the same with the second piece of wire. Put on your gloves and clean the wires with acetone and place them on your clean paper towel. Without removing your gloves also clean the two main gear wires with acetone. Place the cross wire on the inside of landing gear wire and wrap one of the one inch joints with the copper wire. The wraps need to be tight and close together. Leave the two copper wire ends long and pull them tight between the two adjoining gear wires. Next do the same thing with the other joint.

Clean the joints again and flux them. Clamp the landing gear in the vice so one of the joints is horizontal. Use your torch or maybe soldering iron to heat the two wires both along the copper wrap and at the ends of the wrap. Concentrate the heat on the thicker main landing gear wire. Solder the joint using the same procedure you used previously to tin the wires. The copper wires should be completely covered with solder and bright. Check the strength of your solder joints by trying to unwrap a small length of the copper wire. It should not be easy. Clip off the excess copper wire that extends beyond the solder joints. The cross member now needs to be bent forward about 3/4 of an inch (measured at the top of the loop). Do this by taking a pair of needle nose pliers and grip them just above the solder joints. Gradually bend each side of the cross member steadily forward until the 3/4 inch distance is reached. When satisfied slip a piece of heat shrink over the soldered joints and shrink it. Finish by using epoxy to attach the two copper brass tubes onto the axles and use the wheel retainers to mount the wheels.
 
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Front Fuselage Assembly (see photos)
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Make a battery holder (see attached photo) from either a 1/16 inch thick sheet of acrylic plastic or a disregarded plastic box or other unused container. It should be a square that is 1/4 inch wider than your battery. My holder is 1.6 inches by 1.6 inches. Next use a sharp pointed object to scribe a 1 /16 inch wide slot that is 1/2 inch long. It needs to be centered and located 1/16 inch away from each side. Next drill a series of holes slightly less than 1/16 inch in diameter and as close together as possible along the slot. Finish by taking a flat slim needle nose file and remove the material between the holes. The plastic servo tray and wheel collars shown in the photo are no longer used and should be disregarded.

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Velcro and a battery strap is used to hold the battery in place. Cut two 1/4 inch wide Velcro strips and attach them next to the inside of the slot and parallel to the two edges of the battery holder. I used the fuzzy part of the Velcro on the battery holder. The smooth piece of the Velcro was used on the battery. The piece of Velcro attached to the battery is as wide as the battery and runs about 3/4 of its length. This will allow movement of the battery to fine tune the CG.

All of the remaining fuselage components can now be temporarily mounted on the boom. They will later be moved to establish the desired CG location. Slide a 51/64 inch diameter piece of 0.4 inch wide heat shrink on the rear of the boom. Also temporarily slide a piece of 1.0 inch x 3/4 inch wide heat shrink around the receiver and slide it onto the rear bottom of the boom. Position the receiver with the antennas forward. Be sure to place a piece of GWS white tape under the receiver to isolate the pc board from the conductive fiber carbon boom. Next slide two more pieces of 51/64 inch diameter by 0.4 inch wide heat shrink on the back of the boom.

From the front of the boom temporarily slide the rear wing mount onto the boom. You may need to slightly bevel the four front sides of the boom and the front sides of the wing mount to ease assembly. Next slide four pieces of 51/64 x 0.4 inch wide heat shrink on the boom. Next slide the front wing mount on the front of the boom. Loosely wrap a piece of 1.0-11/32 x 1.25 inch wide heat shrink around the ESC and slide it onto the boom. This heat shrink will later be used to also capture the wires of the motor and ESC. Mount the motor to its mount with one washer of down thrust and one washer of right thrust. Temporarily slide it onto the boom. Thread the Velcro battery strap through the slots in the battery holder and attach the battery to the center of its holder. Loop the strap around the boom and ESC and strap it down behind the motor. The ESC is positioned on top of the boom. You can now also temporarily mount the just finished modified landing gear. Less the rubber bands and their support. Lastly attach the rear fuselage assembly with a screw and thread the servo wires and connectors through the two pieces of heat shrink. Also connect the servo wires to the desired receiver channels.

Establishing the correct CG Location
Try positioning the front wing mount 4.25 inches from the back edge of the motor mount. Move the rear wing mount so it aligns with the rear of the wing. You can now mount the wing with the provided rubber bands. Slip the fabricated CG gage under the rubber bands on the black marks. Slide the battery and it’s holder along with the ESC about midway between the motor mount and landing gear. Attach the propeller. Does it balance? If not, can you move components so it does? You might want to chose a different battery rather than adding weight if you are still not able to balance the model.

Final Touches
Finish the landing gear by taking a 1.3 inch piece of bamboo skewer and epoxy it one inch behind the back of the front wing mount. I used a double warped rubber band on each side of the skewer. This provided a sufficiently stiff landing gear. Use a screw to permanently mount the motor and it’s mount. Roughen the battery holder and ESC heat shrink where they attach to the boom. Use DAP glue to permanently hold them in place. This is the best CA glue I have ever used. I elected to splice the longer wire that has to run from the ESC to the front (channel 6) of the receiver. You might elect to use a light weight servo extension. The receiver antennas need to be located a fair distance away from the RF conductive carbon boom. Now would be a good time to also reposition all wires and connectors under their heat shrink and shrink it. Use epoxy to permanently attach landing gears and wing mounts. Install the propeller and recheck the CG. Reposition the battery if necessary.

I hope you are happy with your finished model and that the modifications were worth the effort. Have you enjoyed the journey as much as I have sharing it with you?


Build Materials and Equipment

Aloft Hobbies
  1. GWS Slow Stick Kit
  2. Taranis Transmitter
  3. G-RX6 Receiver
  4. Two DSM-44 Servos
  5. EMAX XA 2212-1400KV Motor

Harbor Freight
  1. Heat Shrink Tubing Assortment (88 pc)
  2. Micro Butane Torch ($12.00 with 20% discount coupon) and/or Soldering Iron larger than 100 watts with a large tip

Walmart
  1. Package of 6 Velcro One -Wrap Ties $2.98 (Craft Department)
  2. Robinson Butane Fuel (Cigarette Counter)
  3. Large Sharpie black Marker with Wedge Point (office supplies)
  4. Blue Duck Clean Release Tape (Hardware)
  5. DAP RAPIDFUSE 30 second set time, 30minute cure (Hardware)
  6. E6000 Glue (Hardware)
  7. Bamboo Skewers 12 inches Long, 100 count $3.23

Local Hobby Store
  1. DU-BRO Super Light 3 inch Wheels (10 grams each)
  2. DU-BRO Mini E/Z Connector DUB 845
  3. DU-BRO 1/8 inch Wheel Collars
  4. 3 mm x 1 m Carbon Fiber Push Rod Tube
  5. DU-BRO 1.0 inch Mini Light weight wheels Cat # 100 MW
  6. APC 9x6 Slow Flyer Composite Propeller
  7. 0.047 Music wire
  8. 0.062 Music wire
  9. 1/8 inch Brass Tube
  10. 15 minute epoxy
  11. 1/16 inch Acrylic Plastic Sheet ( also available online)

Online Orders
1. Package of STAY-BRITE SOLDER and FLUX
2. 0.025 inch diameter Copper Wire
3. Cheetah 18 Amp Brushless ESC
 
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Robert asked me to post up his very detailed Slow Stick build as he was having some issues getting it posted. He should chime in here.
Thanks so much Wayne. I wanted to post these improvements so other modelers could benefit from my building
experience. It would not have happened without your help. BBob
 

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You are very welcome, and thank you very much for taking the time to write it up and share your build. :)
 

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This is very helpful. I'm working on a Slow Stick now, and will incorporate some of these ideas.
It was cold in the garage this morning and the plastic castings were fighting me. I found that a short soak in warm water made them more compliant.
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GWS Slow Stick Steerable Tail Wheel Modification

The steerable tail wheel modification is shown in the attached photos. Note that the rudder bush rod is used to supply the steering torque instead of the fragile rudder. The hardware that needs to be fabricated to implement this design is as follows:
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The gear wire is fabricated from either 0.055 or 0.0625 music wire. See photo. Just use a 0.0625 diameter long piece of music wire. The one and quarter turn loop was formed by using a pair of vice grips to tightly wrap the wire around a 3/8 inch diameter steel rod. Make the necessary bends and wire lengths as shown. Just leave the wire extra long at the vertical end to ease making the 90 degree horizontal bend. This bend has to be made after the gear wire is in place on the boom. The extra length will come in handy when making this hard to hold bend. Three 1/4 inch diameter brass washers and one 3/8 inch brass washer that are 0.08 inches thick were also fabricated.
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The White Out is used to mask areas that you want to keep free of solder. It is a amazing product that will take the heat and is easy to remove with hot water and a wire brush.

You may elect to substitute three 1/16 inch wheel collars and a 4/40 bass nut instead of the four washers. Purchase a brass nut that is 1/4 of an inch across the hex. You will also need to fabricate the two 0.062 inch inside diameter brass tubes that are also shown. The brass nut will require the use of a 1/2 inch long brass tube to reduce the internal 4/40 thread diameter to 1/16 inch. See photo as to how to accomplished this at the same time the nut is soldered to a straight piece of 0.047 diameter push rod wire. Use a file to remove any excess solder from the nut and to make the top and bottom flat, parallel and smooth. The EZ Connector can now also be mated to the nut and epoxy the short 1/16 inch inside diameter brass tube in place as shown in the photo. Do not make the z bend at this time as it will be made later.

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A 0.098 diameter hole needs to be drilled all the way through the center of the GWS rear plastic tail wire mount and carbon fiber fuselage boom. Assemble the gear wire along with the 3/4 inch brass tube and three wheel collars. Do not tighten the wheel collar screws or glue the brass tube at this time.
This horizontal bend can now be made perpendicular to the tail wheel and about 1/8 of an inch below the servo arm. To accomplish this slide the brass tube and top wheel collar down until the collar bottoms out on the top of the boom. Then push the tail wheel wire upward as far as it will go. Take a pair of strong needle nose pliers and firmly grip the wire where it exits the top wheel collar. Using your other hand grip the upper wire and make the 90 degree bend with a fairly large bend radius. Inspect the bend to be sure it is perpendicular to the tail wheel and level with the boom. Make any final bend adjustments. The bend radius can be modified to raise or lower the horizontal wire so it is slightly below the push rod wire. Finally position the two wheel collars so they are tight against the brass tube and secure in place with epoxy or tighten the screws. The brass tube can now be moved up or down on the boom to position the horizontal wire 1/8 of a inch below the servo arm. When this is accomplished epoxy the brass tube in place.

The rudder push rod can now be completed. Mount the EZ Connector on the rudder push rod wire and temporarily assemble it in place. When you are satisfied that everything works smoothly align the rudder and tail wheel so they are parallel to the boom. Now mark the push rod where it intersects the desired rudder control horn hole. The z bend can now be made at this location.

The linkage was adjusted by selecting the rudder control horn hole and servo arm hole that would allow the tail wheel to rotate at a slightly less angle than the rudder. This completes the steerable tail wheel modification.

STEERABLE TAIL WHEEL MODIFICATION UPDATE

If you are doing a new build a simpler design is available. This design also has the advantage of using the servo push rod to transfer the steering torque to the wire gear. The modification does requires the above tail wheel gear assembly to be mounted at the very end of the fuselage boom. Also a modified control horn must be assembled as shown in the photo. This modified horn also has the advantage of eliminating the need for the brass nut and E/Z Connector.
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Modification to remove some of the Ugly from the Slow Stick
The attached photos show the dressed up Slow Stick. The added cowl, canopy and fuselage side fairings were used to enhance the model appearance.




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The cowl was 3D printed by a modeling friend from the enclosed drawing. It weighs slightly less
than a ounce. A single 4-40 bolt is used to attach and remove the cowl from the model. A 4-40 blind nut was attached to the back edge of the motor mount with epoxy to capture the bolt. This bolt along with the cowl cut outs at the rear of the cowl provide a secure attachment. Instead of fabricating a cowl from scratch you may elect to obtain one from a small existing electric model. The drawing can be used as a guide to help with your selection.

The canopy and side fairings were fabricated from Dollar Tree foam board. The foam board pieces were all painted with latex enamel,


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To ease balancing of the model a 0.25 inch diameter hole was drilled in the cowl a distance of 4.125 inches back from the wing leading edge. A dowel can then be temporarily inserted in this hole to check model balance.


These additions along with the previously described steerable tail wheel added an additional 3 ounces of weight to the original 16 ounce Slow Stick.

Stay healthy and use the COVID-19 Virus stay at home quarantine period to modify a existing model or to build a new one.
 
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Anyone have a copy of the GWS instructions? I was given a Slow Stick at the club and instructions are missing ... so far I have not located a set on the internet (probably out there somewhere!)

Thanks for the build report -- nice!
 

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At the very bottom you should see "manual" in the dropdown
 

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At the very bottom you should see "manual" in the dropdown
Thanks!

What's the work around to get shipping? The only option I see is to pick up in store in California. It isn't giving another option (even though it had me verify shipping address the same as billing address).
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Thanks!

What's the work around to get shipping? The only option I see is to pick up in store in California. It isn't giving another option (even though it had me verify shipping address the same as billing address).
Jim
I sent them an email...
 

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Did you get the shipping to work? Hopefully one of the crew answered your email already.
 

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As my normality is ten minutes flight - ten hours repairing, instead of building the original one, which i bought in the usa and costed me a fortune for the delivery, i have built these ones from scratch In order to learn flying a bit better. Airfoil mostly kfm , 3 and 4, aluminum stick instead of the fragile carbon ( 6 more grams every 10 cm for the same size ),3d printed stuff. Using a 3d printer allows for near zero ti e from the idea to the testing
 

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Cool - I like it. Looks like a fun project.

Originally the Slow Sticks used aluminum tubes, but they were easy to damage, so they switched to the carbon and it proved to be very tough to hurt.
 

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I have broken some carbon tubes, they can be very weak near the edges, or if you drill a hole. Moreover all of the carbon tubes available here come from china and besides being expensive, come only in 50 cm length, that’s why now I am using alloy. I have a number of carbon tubes left, but i would like to use them for a really worthy project. So far , i am experimenting, sometimes with good results, sometimes not. for example i have given up using a pusher motor with a wingspan more than 80 cm, because of the weight needed to balance the plane. The pusher is anyway more difficult to setup than the tractor . All the parts are glued to 3d printed supports that can be removed and reinstalled in seconds. I have to say that 3d printed parts are also very weak. I have broken a number of landing gears and so i have designed that “gondola” like piece that looks funny but can accomodate the battery, the esc and also the wheels and so far has proved more robust. Also wing supports often do not survive accidents, it’ a good thing owning a 3d printer.
 
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