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Progressive setup for Butterfly

Sumobob

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I am trying to set up a progressive setup for my 6 servo plus motor sailplane. What I mean is, for the first 50% of butterfly deploy only the flaps move. Then on the second 50% of stick movement the ailerons start to raise. I already know this doesn’t work using the butterfly mix on my X18S transmitter. I have tried outside of the butterfly mix to setup such an aileron,mix using the throttle that sends the ailerons up on the final 50% of stick movement. No joy. I turned off the butterfly mix to try to create the set of mixes using the throttle stick to no avail. Being new to the radio probably doesn’t help either. Suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Bob
 
I am trying to set up a progressive setup for my 6 servo plus motor sailplane. What I mean is, for the first 50% of butterfly deploy only the flaps move. Then on the second 50% of stick movement the ailerons start to raise. I already know this doesn’t work using the butterfly mix on my X18S transmitter. I have tried outside of the butterfly mix to setup such an aileron,mix using the throttle that sends the ailerons up on the final 50% of stick movement. No joy. I turned off the butterfly mix to try to create the set of mixes using the throttle stick to no avail. Being new to the radio probably doesn’t help either. Suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Bob
if you are new to the programming world then you need to look for specific tasks that must provide by your radio. If you want to delay stickinput you may go with an offset mix, if you want full travel despite your stick input (assume 50%) you may configure weight of the mix and if you want clean surfaces without stickinput you have to dial trim offset correct.

you need to know the interplay of
offset, weight and trim offset
to get this done with your ethos software ... (emulator?) you may use the manual to find out if that is available
 
I have done this on my X18, I'll need to double check how I accomplished it. I know I am using the butterfly mix and a custom curve, but probably have a second mix for the spoilers. All of this is tied to the throttle stick, and engage the mixes via a switch. So worse comes to worse, it is 2 mixes, each with a custom curve.
 
good to know, butterfly is a pre-defined mixing of the wing channels (ail, flap) with elevator (X or V or T) steered with a specific input — switch or stick (throttle). If you want to modify the pre-setup you must customize the mixing curves (offset, weight etc.)

input is throttle stick and output are wing and tail servos. a good Tx should have a software solution (proper mixing) for your demand.
 
Curves are the answer. Personally, if you are not competing at a high level it's not really necessary. It may not be necessary even if you plan to be.
 
It is the way I want to do it. Competition is not necessary. I just thought it would better way to do it.
Yep. But is it really necessary? In most cases it really doesn't provide any advantage. Just go with flaps first and dial in any crow slowly if you feel it helps
 
Yep. But is it really necessary? In most cases it really doesn't provide any advantage. Just go with flaps first and dial in any crow slowly if you feel it helps
For me it has become a learning in learning how to program the transmitter. I am making progress learning and having some fun doing it. So, for now I will fly the standard crow but keep experimenting with how to make changes in how crow works.
 
Ed - I really like to have my first 50% of travel be slow flap movement, and the second half to be my air brakes where the flaps come crashing down and the spoilers are popping up. This way I have a single stick giving me some flap when I am wanting to slow down on the approach, and then glide control when I'm on final. It is a very manageable workload. It also allows for some flap camber in low lift.. I don't like hunting around for switches. LOL
 
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