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Obelix Build Log

So I’m in the USA - we don’t have L plate stickers here, but some learners will put a note or sticker on the back to ward off road ragers.

Yes, we had orientation issues. I’ll have to put some thought into the color scheme.

The Obelix sections are not reflexed as far as I can tell, but the center section is rigged at a more negative angle than the outboard panels. Based on the plan write up, I got the impression that Chas developed the sections himself (with a shoe?).
USA? Aha...Mea culpa. I thought all Obelix builders had to be in UK as the plan and Chas' "From up here" column was in the UK RCM&E magazine.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

"Shoe" Yes we always had a joke about the "Size Ten" aerofoil sections.

Shoe or not it flies OK.

Doc.
 
Post #11 shows my upscaled plan with the original airfoils. It’s possible there might be a tiny bit of reflex, duno. Would have to measure the camber-line to find out.

I was introduced to the Obelix by a soaring mentor during my sophomore year in college. He had a newly finished Obelix sitting on the mantle which caught my eye. He explained that it came from a British mag called RCM&E and he gave me a copy of the plans (but not the mag). I still hadn’t seen the mag and they weren’t exactly easy to find here.
 
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Post #11 shows my upscaled plan with the original airfoils. It’s possible there might be a tiny bit of reflex, duno. Would have to measure the camber-line to find out.

I was introduced to the Obelix by a soaring mentor during my sophomore year in college. He had a newly finished Obelix sitting on the mantle which caught my eye. He explained that it came from a British mag called RCM&E and he gave me a copy of the plans (but not the mag). I still hadn’t seen the mag and they weren’t exactly easy to find here.
Thank heavens for Outerzone.

I saw the plan - that brought back some memories - and yes it does have a little "shoehorn" reflex.;)

I'm sure it will be a great flyer.

Doc.
 
Glassing the control surfaces. You can easily see the internal epoxy/Cabosil fillet along the hingeline at the elevator LE before I apply the surface glass cloth (it’s the thin strip that’s transmitting some light from above).
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I’ve taped the control surfaces onto a scrap stick of wood to raise them off the workbench. The short end of an annoying credit card offer makes a good epoxy squeege, even has non-snagging rounded corners.

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Thanks Doc - actually there are numerous “issues” with this build that don’t really show up in the photos. Really irksome but they’ll mostly disappear under primer filler and paint.

Decided to taper TEs of the fins. Used the tape on the sanding block trick to sand the taper. The piece of tape on the fin is not really necessary but I did it. A scrap of 1/2” ply clamped to the workbench serves as a running guide for the sanding block. A length of suitable diameter (slightly over half the thickness of whatever you are sanding) steel rod sets the maximum depth that I can sand the taper to and also makes it easy to sand equal taper on each side. The steel rod sits on the bench top at the base of the running guide. When I’ve sanded down to the steel rod, it’ll start to move with the sanding block and then I know I’ve reached the target depth.
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Also shortened the nose pod by 1” because it just looked a little too long the way I drew it on the plans. I’ve cut the hatch out before glassing the pod
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Wow - Another great building tip!! I can use that one on most of my builds!! Awesome!

So I just sanded a nose block on another build. Seeing your photos makes me wonder if you have some tips for keeping the nose centered and on target?
 
Wow - Another great building tip!! I can use that one on most of my builds!! Awesome!

So I just sanded a nose block on another build. Seeing your photos makes me wonder if you have some tips for keeping the nose centered and on target?

For final shaping, I think the key is to go slow and inspect frequently so that you creep up on the target shape.

I have found that even if I happen to have a block of wood that matches the dimensions of the nose block, it’s easier to work with one that’s laminated from 3 or 4 pieces of equal thickness so that I can use the lamination “seams” as a visual guide. If you have an even number of laminations you get the benefit of one of them being your centerline. This build’s nose block did not have a centerline lamination but the center slab was narrow enough for eyeballing the symmetry. If you want to get fancy, you can build your nose block in such a way as to get a centerline seam as well as an equatorial seam, plus any other's you might want. When sanding, I use a hard backed sanding block so that the glue seams don't stand proud of the surface. As I get closer to the final shape, I continue with the hard backed sanding block but I use very light pressure.

Also helps to use a single light source when checking your work so u have a reliable shadow line to check for unwanted waviness. I'm constantly re-orienting the noseblock/fuselage so that I'm alwasy sanding on the terminator transition between light and shadow.

A big one I often forget when I’m in a rush is to hold the fuselage so I’m looking at it head-on. The top of the fuse becomes a curved horizon. Slowly tilt the fuse nose up while observing this horizon. The horizon will form an increasingly tighter curve as it creeps up to the tip of the nose and you want to be on the look out for unwanted left/right asymmetry as welll as other inconsistencies in the character of the curve. Do the same for the bottom by slowly tilting it nose down as you observe the bottom horizon
 
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For final shaping, I think the key is to go slow and inspect frequently so that you creep up on the target shape.

I have found that even if I happen to have a block of wood that matches the dimensions of the nose block, it’s easier to work with one that’s laminated from 3 or 4 pieces of equal thickness so that I can use the laminations “seams” as a visual guide. If you have an even number of laminations you get the benefit of a one of them being your centerline. This build’s nose block did not have a centerline lamination but the center slab was narrow enough for eyeballing the symmetry. If you want to get fancy, you can build your nose block in such a way as to get a centerline seam as well as an equatorial seam, plus any other's you might want. When sanding, I use a hard backed sanding block so that the glue seams don't stand proud of the surface. As I get closer to the final shape, I continue with the hard backed sanding block but I use very light pressure.

Also helps to use a single light source when checking your work so u have a reliable shadow line to check for unwanted waviness. I 'm constantly re-orienting the noseblock/fuselage so that I'm alwasy sanding on the terminator transition between light and shadow.

A big one I often forget when I’m in a rush is to hold the fuselage so I’m looking at it head-on. The top of the fuse becomes a curved horizon. Slowly tilt the fuse nose up while observing this horizon. Obviously the horizon will form an increasingly tighter curve as it creeps up to the tip of the nose. Be on the look out for unwanted left/right asymmetry as welll as other inconsistencies in the character of the curve. Do the same for the bottom by slowly tilting it nose down as you observe the bottom horizon
Great stuff!

I have carved many fuselage plugs and other parts to make moulding plugs. All this advice is very relevant.

With careful work, you can make a laminated plug with incredible accuracy, easily +/- 0,5mm (0.020")and lower, with careful sanding and frequent glancing/measuring the lamination shapes and lengths. Make sure your wood laminations are the same thickness, though.:cool:

For the wood sanding tape trick, I made a vertically adjustable sideboard type of block for the abrasive paper side, and always keep a roll of smooth electrical tape around when sanding. You can always put masking tape over the end of a sanding block, too, in order to give you a lot of adjustment for doing thin edges such as this.

Another trick is to use spray adhesive and put abrasive paper in two grades on each side of a basic 'plank' sanding block. Do the rough sanding and then flip the block for most of the finer passes.

On harder balsa, you can actually polish the wood after fine sanding to, let's say, 320 grit with Scotchbrite-type scouring pads taped across a small block. Here, we have many different grades and densities, but I'm not sure in the USA. The Scotchbrite also seems to remove a lot of the dust from the grain line grooves. Before the first cost of dope or sanding sealer - or epoxy, the finish is pretty smooth almost instantly as there are very few dust particles.

I learned many of these tricks from my wooden yacht builder father before fibreglass came along and put him out of business. I make Chinese furniture now just for fun, so I have a lot of chances to use what I learned.

By the way, my dad became a production manager at Hawker Siddely Aviation after he gave up the yachting side - and that wasn't bad for learning stuff, either!:LOL:

Doc.
 
Glassed the fuse pod and gorilla glued it into place. I designed my wire cutting templates so that the bottom of the lower core beds are flush and parallel with the bottom of the fuse pod, so to align the fuse pod, all I had to do was place the wing back onto the lower core bed and then drop the fuse pod in place resting it on the work bench - no fussing with vertical position or incidence angle. Wing skin thickness is not significant it this case.

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Also started carving the top and bottom aft fairings to transition the pod to the wing. Would have been easier and neater to have included the upper fairing with the top fuse pod sheeting to carve, sand and glass as one piece, but I hadn’t thoroughly thought it out at the time. You can see the symmetrical curves/lines drawn to guide an initial rough carving before final shaping with a sanding block.
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Generously rounded pod also means gaps/channels on the top and bottom where the wing meets the pod. Epoxy/cabosil filler squeegeed into the gap flush to the wing surface.
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Aileron servo pockets cut and servo mounting plates made:
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Getting really close to putting down some primer! Did a couple of Photoshop mockups. I’ve been sitting on the USAF scheme for several months now - inspired by the famous Balls Eight mothership , but I came up with SAR scheme just today. Can’t argue with the SAR for visibility.

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Getting really close to putting down some primer! Did a couple of Photoshop mockups. I’ve been sitting on the USAF scheme for several months now - inspired by the famous Balls Eight mothership , but I came up with SAR scheme just today. Can’t argue with the SAR for visibility.

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I used to work out at NASA Armstrong where Balls 008 sits at the North Gate so that gets my vote for the cool scheme. Gotta say the search and rescue scheme is cool, too, though.
 
I used to work out at NASA Armstrong where Balls 008 sits at the North Gate so that gets my vote for the cool scheme. Gotta say the search and rescue scheme is cool, too, though.
Yeah, I watched with interest your vid on flight testing with models (Dryden?). I’m going to do a paint test on some scrap. Will have to sleep some more on the scheme choice…
 
Yeah, I watched with interest your vid on flight testing with models (Dryden?). I’m going to do a paint test on some scrap. Will have to sleep some more on the scheme choice…
I had wanted to capture the history of using models for flight test at NASA Dryden/Armstrong for many years. I started this video project about 2 years before I left. I wrote the script and pieced together a storyboard. I worked with one of our fantastic video production folks Steve Parcel who put it all together from current and historical footage which I think turned out great. I'm very proud of my time there.

 
That’s the vid I saw Red, looks like a dream job!

Thanks Wayne I think I’m still leaning towards the USAF scheme, maybe save the SAR or similar high viz for a smaller stock 36” build later.
 
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