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New Single Stick Project

Think it was about 20 units, with hundreds of hours invested.

We could have kept it alive, but builders were having lots of issues building them, thus sucking up a lot more time, and Frsky announced the end of the X10 as we were in development. We were honestly surprised that people were having so many issues, but we were used to having these radios open, so second nature to us. We also had issues with getting the correct parts and keeping them in stock. Seems our supplier that should have known better had some issues. In the end it was a big head ache for us and we didn't see it getting any better as time went by. I was afraid it was going to lead to upset customers if it continued. Besides, we rather build models than radios.
 
I understand completely. It is just that in my younger days we had to not only build the model but we had to build the equipment in order to go fly! There is a great deal of satisfaction from doing all of it. We also had to modify our engines to obtain throttle control. My hat is tipped to those Ham Radio fans who came to our aid!
20 units is about what I thought it was. I hope that all of the builds were successful, and that the builders will show us some of their finished units along with what they are flying with them.

My next project is to put my modified X10s Express SS innards into a ALOFT single stick case, then I will have TWO of the greatest radios on the planet!!!
Yes with ATHOS.

TOM
 
Hey Rafael,

Is it at all possible to replace the USB connector on the X10s /Single Stick with the USB C-10 Connector?

Tom
 
Hey GG;
Thanks for the reply. I had no idea that that much would be involved. Thanks for all of the info
I think I will chew on this a little more!

Tom/Hoquiam
 
Rafael: Sorry but I'm still a little confused about how to get a throttle slider pot working properly.... is there such a thing as a digital pot vs analog pot?
Can a slider pot from an old Futaba work with the X10S? I'm asking because I need 2 slider pots near each other: I fly helicopters with both throttle and collective separate and I'm trying to figure out how to get a second pot in the TX: can I use one of them or do I need to order something new?
Also, I would like to extend some of the wiring: wondering if you know the name of the type of connectors used on the motherboard?

The kit I purchased from Aloft had a separate "pot" in it I assume to be used for the throttle: would I connect that to the throttle input on the motherboard or does it need to go to some other input because it's not digital?
Thank you in advance for any help you can be... Dean
 
The X10S uses hall effect sensors on the gimbals. Hall effects come in a few flavors, basically one that pretends to be analog, and the other type is digital. The X10S uses the digital type. (I think the X10 used the analog type?? I may be wrong on this.) Please note that I said the gimbals, the rest of the sliders and pots on the radio are indeed traditional pots. So you have a mix.

So for the single stick gimbal, everything is digital as is the throttle as all of these were originally on the 2 gimbals. Everything else will be a pot.

Typically the Futaba pots are the same spec as a FrSky pot. (I want to say 150k?? It has been a long time, so again this may be very wrong.)

So for your case, the throttle needs to be the hall effect, and the collective can be a pot.

Also, while on the subject - If you are having issues with the third axis on the single stick (rudder) not working correctly, this is a result of it having the wrong hall effect. We have seen this issue pretty regularly as Frsky seems to have forgotten what is the correct hall effect for the X10S radios. So keep your old gimbals as you may need to transplant the hall effect from the old gimbals into the throttle and or rudder inputs on the new single stick.

Hope this helps.
 
Hey Wayne;

I started to take my X10xs apart today and found that I had not up graded the unit to Ethos as I had thought.
therefor I am asking the question, since these parts are going into my new single stick case can I send you
just the required parts to upgrade to the latest level, or should I wait and send the entire unit when I have completed the build?

Also are the internal antennae (2) available? How about the Bezel-Nut DRIVER?

Tom Strom
 
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Hey Tom,

Probably best to get it up on Ethos first. If this is an older X10S, you are going to need to track down the update board. I'm not sure if these are still available or not. You will need to confirm what version of the X10S you have, this could cause a problem for you. You may be better of locating a newer X10S already running Ethos if you can not locate the update board.
 
Wayne,
Well this a real "tear jerker"! I only bought the Kit in order to utilize my unused 10x on OPEN TX. I have not even heard of such a thing
as an "update board". Where would I look for one?

I no longer have any of the original 10x material due to a major theft loss during a residence relocation.
 
Think I found one on ebay:

This is if your radio is so old that it does not offer ACCESS.

Then you should be able to install Ethos.

I'm very rusty on this as I have not messed with this for a long time.
 
Wayne said:
Think I found one on ebay:

This is if your radio is so old that it does not offer ACCESS.

Then you should be able to install Ethos.

I'm very rusty on this as I have not messed with this for a long time.
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Hey Wayne,
I took a quick look and it says they are all sold out!!

BTW of what possible use is the detent/drag strip still attached to the gimble?
 
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I assume you mean the friction band? It is used for the throttle set up on the gimbal.
 
Correct.. The chromed metal strips are used for friction when the stock gimbal is being used for throttle.
 
Hey Wayne;

Good news, I just checked back on the upgrade card using the link you gave me and they had another card
available. So hope is still working!

Tom
 
dean mcinnis said:
Rafael: Sorry but I'm still a little confused about how to get a throttle slider pot working properly.... is there such a thing as a digital pot vs analog pot?
Can a slider pot from an old Futaba work with the X10S? I'm asking because I need 2 slider pots near each other: I fly helicopters with both throttle and collective separate and I'm trying to figure out how to get a second pot in the TX: can I use one of them or do I need to order something new?
Also, I would like to extend some of the wiring: wondering if you know the name of the type of connectors used on the motherboard?

The kit I purchased from Aloft had a separate "pot" in it I assume to be used for the throttle: would I connect that to the throttle input on the motherboard or does it need to go to some other input because it's not digital?
Thank you in advance for any help you can be... Dean
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The pot is just a axle for the hall sensor...
Please do not wire it haha
 
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