New Single Stick Project

[GardenGate]

R: don't worry about it, its just my notes for the bags, you need to use your throttle sensor

Hi Rafeal - I did find what I think is a pot inside the bag, but I don't use that but should pull the Hall effect sensor off of my X10S throttle gimbal, is that right? What is the pot for?

@Rafael & @Wayne - I'm a little curious about the thinking behind all the switch and slider locations. I see the sliders stay on the top/upper corners of the transmitter - my guess is you were thinking the left slider isn't really going to be used much in flight, perhaps just a "set and forget" control much like the pot knobs on the front face (something like the volume control for sound)? Similar for the switches located on the top left of the transmitter - I don't see those being generally workable by either hand during flight - correct? To me, having those switches on the top right of the transmitters would make them reachable with my thumb during flight - that might be where I drill additional holes for the other two switches - assuming there is physical clearance, there isn't any issues with switches and the Hall effect sensors, is there?

Thanks!
Bill

 

[RafaelAvila]

Hi Rafeal - I did find what I think is a pot inside the bag, but I don't use that but should pull the Hall effect sensor off of my X10S throttle gimbal, is that right? What is the pot for?

@Rafael & @Wayne - I'm a little curious about the thinking behind all the switch and slider locations. I see the sliders stay on the top/upper corners of the transmitter - my guess is you were thinking the left slider isn't really going to be used much in flight, perhaps just a "set and forget" control much like the pot knobs on the front face (something like the volume control for sound)? Similar for the switches located on the top left of the transmitter - I don't see those being generally workable by either hand during flight - correct? To me, having those switches on the top right of the transmitters would make them reachable with my thumb during flight - that might be where I drill additional holes for the other two switches - assuming there is physical clearance, there isn't any issues with switches and the Hall effect sensors, is there?

Thanks!
Bill

the pot inside the bag is like a axle you can see the preview pics
but i dont know if you saw this already

Single Stick Instructions (EN)

Aloft Hobbies Single Stick KIT ASSEMBLY Manual A note about this manual: This manual is intended to be scrolled on a computer or tablet, there are no page numbers for printing. We hope you will find this more convenient, no need to print it out, and it allows us to do real time updates to the ...

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single stick manual
please read the and if any questions come up. let me know
most of the questions you guys asked 99% is there.

 

[Haoyang Wang]

What! There is a manual for it?

Yes, everything is clear now.

 

[Haoyang Wang]

One strange problem with the 3rd axis gimbal:

1. Before calibration, only this turning axis has a stable value (in the range of [-100, 0]); All the other 3 axes have values jumping wildly.
2. After calibration, the other 3 axes work fine, having stable values in the range of [-100, +100], but this turning axis stops working, staying at -100.

If I reset the calibration, they go back as in (1): 3 jumping wildly; only the turning axis works. Calibrate again, and the turning axis stays at -100. I cannot get all 4 axes working at the same time.

The button at the knob tip works fine.

Almost there!

 

[Haoyang Wang]

Video showing the weird gimbal behaviors I am talking about.
(Also, maybe unrelated, but I just found that the little lithium battery had died. I have to remove the main board again to get to the battery on the other side. Sigh.)

 

[Wayne]

What third axis did you install? FrSky offers something like 4 different versions. I'm trying to order in more of the X10S versions. I think the only REAL difference is the hall effects.

When you calibrate are you always starting with the same movements? Or are you sometimes turning the third axis first, and sometimes one of the other inputs first?

Best guess is it detects the feedback from the first hall effect input and sets them all to the same style, but you actually have a mismatched set, so the others can not calibrate.

As I recall Rafael here has swapped the hall effects in the third axis to make the correct version. (Think FrSky had sent us some mis labeled units at one point when we were active on this project.)

 

[Haoyang Wang]

I use this one I bought from Aloft:

FrSky X10S Express/X12S Third Axis Gimbal With Button

This Third Axis Gimbal adds fingertip control of a camera or anything else you can think of to your FrSky Horus X10S/Express/X12S (MC12 gimbals). It replaces either one of your stick ends on your radio. Includes M6 and M5 threaded sticks. Features a high quality Hall Effect sensor for great...

alofthobbies.com

 

[Wayne]

That should be the correct one.

I do recall we found a few to have the wrong hall sensor a couple of years back.. @RafaelAvila do you recall? Didn't you have to swap a bunch of hall sensors?

 

[RafaelAvila]

That should be the correct one.

I do recall we found a few to have the wrong hall sensor a couple of years back.. @RafaelAvila do you recall? Didn't you have to swap a bunch of hall sensors?

im not 100% sure but yes i recall something like that... @Haoyang Wang can you try to use the sensor from the older gimbal in the new one? and see if it fix the problem?

 

[Haoyang Wang]

Yes, all 4 axes work when I connect the old sensor (on the old gimbal) like this.

 

[RafaelAvila]

Yes, all 4 axes work when I connect the old sensor (on the old gimbal) like this.

Yes I got it just try to swap the sensors that will solve your problem

 

[Haoyang Wang]

Yes I got it just try to swap the sensors that will solve your problem

Is there a way to open up the turning knob to get to the sensor inside?
When will it be back in stock?

FrSky X10S Express/X12S Third Axis Gimbal With Button

This Third Axis Gimbal adds fingertip control of a camera or anything else you can think of to your FrSky Horus X10S/Express/X12S (MC12 gimbals). It replaces either one of your stick ends on your radio. Includes M6 and M5 threaded sticks. Features a high quality Hall Effect sensor for great...

alofthobbies.com

Thank you for the help!

 

[RafaelAvila]

Is there a way to open up the turning knob to get to the sensor inside?

R: Yes its two screws from the bottom to start, then open it is easy

When will it be back in stock?

FrSky X10S Express/X12S Third Axis Gimbal With Button

This Third Axis Gimbal adds fingertip control of a camera or anything else you can think of to your FrSky Horus X10S/Express/X12S (MC12 gimbals). It replaces either one of your stick ends on your radio. Includes M6 and M5 threaded sticks. Features a high quality Hall Effect sensor for great...

alofthobbies.com

i dont know yet i think wayne has placed order.. @Wayne ??

 

[Wayne]

We should have them pretty soon. They are on order.

 

[Haoyang Wang]

The sensor is labeled "M9Lite L-V2", so it's probably a wrong one.
Do you happen to have the correct sensor at hand? Or I'll wait for the gimbal to be back in stock.
I am going to squeezing in my older sensor, and see what happens.

 

[RafaelAvila]

The sensor is labeled "M9Lite L-V2", so it's probably a wrong one.
Do you happen to have the correct sensor at hand? Or I'll wait for the gimbal to be back in stock.

you can use the sensor from your old gimbal rudder it will work just fine...
use some glue and you will be good to go

 

[Wayne]

Did you buy that gimbal a while back, or recently? I know we had a batch of them with the wrong sensor we had to fix. Wondering if they did it again. (I have more on order right now..)

 

[Haoyang Wang]

Did you buy that gimbal a while back, or recently? I know we had a batch of them with the wrong sensor we had to fix. Wondering if they did it again. (I have more on order right now..)

I bought the last one in stock on August 29.

I swapped in my old sensor and it's all working now. Yay!!! All done. Thank you RafaelAvila and Wayne for all your help! Yay!!!

So for the people who needs the 3rd-axis gimbal:

• If the gimbal for your particular transmitter is not in stock, just order a random one in stock. You might be in luck and get the one you actually need.
• If not, just swap in the old sensor from your donor transmitter.

 

[Wayne]

Some care here also as they will have different thread adapters at the end that goesinto the gimbal. FrSky has changed that a few times with different radios. So best to get the X10S version as I think this is the "one off" style only used in the "horus" line of radios.

 

[RafaelAvila]

One strange problem with the 3rd axis gimbal:

1. Before calibration, only this turning axis has a stable value (in the range of [-100, 0]); All the other 3 axes have values jumping wildly.
2. After calibration, the other 3 axes work fine, having stable values in the range of [-100, +100], but this turning axis stops working, staying at -100.

If I reset the calibration, they go back as in (1): 3 jumping wildly; only the turning axis works. Calibrate again, and the turning axis stays at -100. I cannot get all 4 axes working at the same time.

The button at the knob tip works fine.

Almost there!

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BTW your new single stick looks awesome. Good job!