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My first Glider Tow - With a brand new (old) Plane

Nigel

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Earlier today, I was lucky enough to get my hands upon an old, possibly competition grade 2 channel glider. It's an old fiberglass fuse, with a balsa wing and V-tail.

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No, it was not about to fall over the edge

It came with some surprisingly quick but full size servos, a 72 Mghz receiver, an ancient NiMH pack, and an adjustable tow hook

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It measures 59 inches in wingspan (60 inch competition class?) and 33 inches long, AUW is still in flux with new lighter servos and adjusting CG. The V-tail utilizes plywood control horns, and a surprisingly slop-free push rod setup. The hinges are either Blenderm or some similar variant, I'll be replacing it as it has started to lose it's grip at the seams. The fiberglass is also very old - it gives off a plastic-like smell after a clean and has the obvious brown hue.

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And now for the scary part: the maiden!

I hadn't actually planned to maiden it at all, but after looking at the electronics and linkages I realized it could quickly be made flyable. I borrowed an ESC to supply 5V for the servos and rx, a 4 channel receiver, and a 2 cell battery. When I modernize the electronics, I plan to most likely use a direct 2S pack with some Bluebird servos.

After hooking up the electronics, I replaced the NiMH pack with a 2s Lipo. As the weight distribution was much more tail-ward, I opted to add a bag of lead shot I carry around into the nose, as well as the pre-existing ballast.

Initial test tosses and chucks went well, but the plane carried some interesting tendencies. Without airspeed that I would gauge to be excessive for its weight, it experienced a bad dutch-roll like oscillation. My pre-existing knowledge with powered ships lead me to believe that it was tail heavy - so I added more and more nose-weight. The plane flew better, but still had some odd tendencies.


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Right about now I realize I have no idea what I'm doing

Thankfully, Ed was there to give some advice. Acting upon it, I removed a significant amount of the nose-weight again and again, until I was left with about a third of what I had initially. Surprisingly enough to me, the plane flew better, even though I had significant down trim as well that I removed. As we were removing ballast, I also increased my expo - I believe part of my issue was my instinct to over-control the aircraft along with slow servos and even slower air frame response time. After this, I managed to make a couple patterns around - from just a chuck! This thing would start lifting before it indicated!

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A quick launch

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Just Chris executing one of his many perfect hand launches

After multiple successful hand launches, we opted to try for a tow. After attaching a soda opener tab onto some string, we tried the first of many tow launches.

Initially, there were many issues. A napkin we had tied into the string to add drag made the ring slip off prematurely, usually before any altitude was gained at all. Secondly, we needed more airspeed than anticipated. Finding the correct tow speed was a challenge as the wind continued to change velocity.

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After doing more CG shifting, and moving the tow hook forward, the glider started to gain significant altitude. But, as a relatively new glider pilot, and as my first glider tow, it was not without incident.

On one occasion, the wind gusted right as I was flying up - leading to extreme tension on the line - which then popped off like a rocket. Other times the wind died and lead to weak launches and premature release, and other launches had the line hang on scarily long. A small toss to test CG coupled with a gust also launched the glider with everyone unprepared, however the wind was perfect and the launch continued as normal.

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For my first time towing, it was definitely a new challenge. I don't doubt things would've gone differently were it not for the advice of the more experienced pilots. For instance, I had the intuition of pulling back too much during launch - something I quickly discovered that would lead to an uncomfortable situation. After several successful launches, I decided to call it a day before I walked away with splintered fiberglass and balsa. I am quite pleased with how it performed as it was, and can only guess that with better servos, less weight, and more CG optimization that this thing will thermal like crazy.

As a side note, if anyone recognizes this plane it would be greatly appreciated - any concrete data or specs I can get my hands on would benefit the longevity of this glider greatly.
 
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Nigel - great write up. It was really fun to watch 2 non glider guys learn a bunch in a few hours. I can tell you are already "hooked" and the fire has been lit.

As a bit of background, Nigel is a very good power and drone pilot. You will see him at the sticks of many of our test planes or in some of the videos we post up here. When I went over to check his glider progress he had a very forward CG, they gave the plane a throw and it actually felt pretty good. We had a decent amount of wind at this time, but the glider still had a nice glide. We suggested removing the nose weight and sure enough the glide performance really woke up. His glide slope probably improved by 100% as he eventually moved the CG back about 1 inch on the wing and the plane just kept flying better and better.

I love vintage hand launch gliders. They are very rare these days, but if you should ever run across one, grab it! The introduction of DLGs killed off the HLG market, but there were a ton of great HLGs produced and some are still "floating" around.

Since you stated the fiberglass gets a strong plastic smell, and also based on the brown color, I think it safe to say it is polyester resin used on the plane. Epoxy will work fine should any repairs be needed in the future, just a little sanding in that are should do the trick.

Watching Chris launch the plane was great. His baseball experience was put to great use!

For anyone reading this, the fun part of this story is that Nigel had a little power glider, but recently lost it in some sort of in flight failure. Earlier in the morning he had commented that he missed the glider, he had enjoyed it more than he thought he would. Then one of our locals pulls up with a collection of old planes he wanted to hand out to people. We saw the small glider and made sure it went to Nigel. He spent the rest of the afternoon setting it up and flying it. Timing could not have been better!
 
Today I did a little work on the modernization part - the next will be restoration.

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Out with the old, in with the new

I removed the ancient original servos - they are most likely older than me. The label reads "System 2000 Micro Servo, TS-11"
Considering the higher performance of the air frame, these servos combined probably cost more than my radio. :)

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I messed around with the geometry to optimize my throw with some sticky tape, and decided to ditch the Dualsky receiver pack for a more compact Lumenier pack. I'll be running both the G-RX6 and the A-10Hs directly off of the 2s battery for the sake of simplicity. Not having a ESC or BEC sure cleans up a lot of wires.

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The wooden block in the second picture is the mount for the adjustable screw-in tow hook

After deciding that I wanted the servos at the very least removable, even if it would invoke large amounts of frustration and choice words to do so, I made some servo trays from some dense balsa and a strip of harder wood for the mounting screws to bite into

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I then proceeded to scuff the inside of the fiberglass fuse, and then firmly secure the trays with super thick CA without accelerator. A quick piece of double sided tape to secure the receiver and some basic cable management gave me a super-clean set-up - especially compared to before.

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A lot of room for nothing

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Ready for CG work


I still have a lot of work to do on this air frame. I'd like to sand and refinish the wings and tail, as I'm not sure they were ever fully finished to begin with. The Blenderm-like hinge is also due for replacement, as well as a new canopy latch system and smoothing the tow hook. A small project like this is greatly welcome as lately I've had the terrible instinct to put FPV on everything I own. I'll try for more flights this weekend, hopefully with some more footage of the launches, and a possible aero-tow. :sneaky:
 
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This little glider was a LOT of fun!! Now I am trying to find something to get going on some bungee launches before hooking up the winch!
I have to admit, I am getting tired of the foamies lately...
 
Old airplanes.
I've noticed that old airframes made of polyester resin (smells like plastic) all seem to have the same problem. That is as the polyester resin ages it shrinks. This puts a lot of stress on any glue joint in the fuselage, often causing micro cracks in the glue line. If the wing hold downs and bulk heads are not held captive by the fuselage shape. I'd strongly recommend that the glue line be saturated with very thin CA to fill the micro cracks. Then sand off the thin CA on the surface of the glue part line. And finally add a small epoxy/fiber* fillet over the glue line.

So the short of this is basically re-glue that bulkhead, front wing hold down.

*If there are no surface contaminates on the glue line the use of a polyester/fiber fillet might be possible.
 
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