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Humper and RadioCopier systems
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Kilrah
Very Strong User
Back in the MHz days I had Futaba radios but a dozen different PPM receiver brands depending on the size, feature, price etc choices available... then manufacturers started pissing everybody off by trying to lock customers in.
The MPM basically has the goal of allowing that again, not to mention that with BnFs nowadays you'd need 6 radios to control everything cool you might have without it, most of which being trash toy-level ones.
The MPM basically has the goal of allowing that again, not to mention that with BnFs nowadays you'd need 6 radios to control everything cool you might have without it, most of which being trash toy-level ones.
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Konrad
Very Strong User
I hate it when I take the wrong Tx with me to the flying field!
Back in the good old days it was a pain keeping track of which Rx was pos or neg shift. Now with FrSky we have ACCST*, ACCST2 and ACCESS with no outside marking to let us know what is what.
*The old ACCST should be purged from everyones working inventory.
All the best,
Konrad
Back in the good old days it was a pain keeping track of which Rx was pos or neg shift. Now with FrSky we have ACCST*, ACCST2 and ACCESS with no outside marking to let us know what is what.
*The old ACCST should be purged from everyones working inventory.
All the best,
Konrad
Konrad
Very Strong User
You'd think that at my age I'd have figured out this male, female thing. It is embarrassing to have admit to the cute counter help that I haven't figured out the male, female connector thing.
tenten8401
New User
Regarding the Vantac MPM, a while back I bought one for my x-lite and got a big frsky sticker pack in the box, it's most certainly an FrSky product.
I'm really hoping TBS Crossfire takes off, they're properly certified on all their products and it's a really solid link and I have yet to get it to drop, 12 channels is enough for the good majority of people. Just hoping they release some radios that have more switches for the plane guys, there are JR modules in the meantime.
Rumor has it TBS is working on a MPM for their tango radios, I'm interested to see if they manage to get it properly certified or if they'll resort to the workarounds Jumper and FrSky had to resort to.
I'm really hoping TBS Crossfire takes off, they're properly certified on all their products and it's a really solid link and I have yet to get it to drop, 12 channels is enough for the good majority of people. Just hoping they release some radios that have more switches for the plane guys, there are JR modules in the meantime.
Rumor has it TBS is working on a MPM for their tango radios, I'm interested to see if they manage to get it properly certified or if they'll resort to the workarounds Jumper and FrSky had to resort to.
Wayne, I hope you are not referring to the FrSky XJT Lite, because it is exactly what you say, a SHITTY product!
I just RMA'd one back to the vendor I bought it from (GetFPV) because it was DOA. It would flash it's red LED for one second, then never do anything else.
The vendor RMA'd it without a moment's hesitation. They usually try to help the customer get a product working before RMA-ing it, but not this thing.
Here is a quick video of what it does
Well, you may want to pay attention to the External RF mode selection. I found out there is a "XJT Lite" mode if you keep scrolling. I didn't notice it and that may have been the issue.
Kilrah has confirmed that using "XJT Lite" works, where "XJT" does not.
Now, if I can just get mine back from USPS. ?
u2builder
Strong User
I just ordered an XJT-Lite for my X-Lite Pro radio. I love the Radio, but I have many old models dating back to 2013 that use D-8 receivers that are on my 2013 Taranis or my 2016 Horus that I would like to fly with the XLite.
I have a lot (dozens) of little planes I built when I got into the hobby that are still on 72 mHz receivers. I'd like to fly them again, but the batteries in my old Futaba radios are pretty much dead. I wish Frsky made some inexpensive Parkflyer receivers. I can't spend $26 each to get these planes in the air.
After building bigger and bigger, my new interest is back to where I started with smaller and smaller. I can fly them at home instead of worrying if we will have a field this year or next year.
I think with the new FAA regs there is going to be a lot of interest in the fly anywhere sub 250 gram modes. All the new fancy technology is incredible overkill for these models. They are most 4 channel, they don't require much range, and they don't need telemetry either, and I could live without model matching too.
Frsky will lose this potentially large market to Spektrum, Flysky, Radiomaster, Jumper and there ilk because they don't offer an inexpensive receiver anymore.
I have a lot (dozens) of little planes I built when I got into the hobby that are still on 72 mHz receivers. I'd like to fly them again, but the batteries in my old Futaba radios are pretty much dead. I wish Frsky made some inexpensive Parkflyer receivers. I can't spend $26 each to get these planes in the air.
After building bigger and bigger, my new interest is back to where I started with smaller and smaller. I can fly them at home instead of worrying if we will have a field this year or next year.
I think with the new FAA regs there is going to be a lot of interest in the fly anywhere sub 250 gram modes. All the new fancy technology is incredible overkill for these models. They are most 4 channel, they don't require much range, and they don't need telemetry either, and I could live without model matching too.
Frsky will lose this potentially large market to Spektrum, Flysky, Radiomaster, Jumper and there ilk because they don't offer an inexpensive receiver anymore.
Konrad
Very Strong User
Really FrSky is pricing themselves out of the market? Now I admit that I can't move around the Horizon Hobby site worth a damn but the entry level Spektrum I find is going for $30. While the FrSky is 4ch Archer $25. I know it's not a fair comparison as the Spektrum is a Spektrum with its limitations.
As you mention 72 mHz I recall most OEM 4 ch RX going for $79 and aftermarket RX like the Berg going for $49, and these where in 1990 dollars! Back then because of the price I would move my radio between flyable models. Today every model has its own RX.
The FrSky RX is a fantastic deal.
As you mention 72 mHz I recall most OEM 4 ch RX going for $79 and aftermarket RX like the Berg going for $49, and these where in 1990 dollars! Back then because of the price I would move my radio between flyable models. Today every model has its own RX.
The FrSky RX is a fantastic deal.
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u2builder
Strong User
If it isn't because it is a lot less expensive, why are a lot of people buying the Jumper and Radiomaster gear?
It is difficult to deal with forced obsolesce of this radio equipment. My many D series receivers work fine. It annoys be that I have to buy a module for my X-Lite to operate them, which probably won't fit in the case, and will force me to figure out another way to add a carrying strap.
It's fine to have high end gear for high end models, but it would be nice to be able to get simple inexpensive gear for low end models.
I hate all the constant and required and usually forced upgrades to these radios, computers, and phones, mostly to provide features I don't need and often make things more complicated.
Yeah, just old and bitchin ,,,,,
It is difficult to deal with forced obsolesce of this radio equipment. My many D series receivers work fine. It annoys be that I have to buy a module for my X-Lite to operate them, which probably won't fit in the case, and will force me to figure out another way to add a carrying strap.
It's fine to have high end gear for high end models, but it would be nice to be able to get simple inexpensive gear for low end models.
I hate all the constant and required and usually forced upgrades to these radios, computers, and phones, mostly to provide features I don't need and often make things more complicated.
Yeah, just old and bitchin ,,,,,
u2builder
Strong User
Ha, good point Konrad.
All my nitro models are on Futaba 9C and I have good batteries in it. I am glad I kept them on 72 because nobody else is on that frequency and I never have to upgrade anything,
But the rub is my first models, tiny Pat Trittle and Stevens Aero type electrics, are in my old 7C. I could replace those batteries, but I really like flying my new little electrics with my X-Lite, and it would be fun to put some of these old models with it,
I am just lamenting the fact that some things that worked well are forced into obsolescence.
Yes, I'd like a $12 parkflyer receiver too.
All my nitro models are on Futaba 9C and I have good batteries in it. I am glad I kept them on 72 because nobody else is on that frequency and I never have to upgrade anything,
But the rub is my first models, tiny Pat Trittle and Stevens Aero type electrics, are in my old 7C. I could replace those batteries, but I really like flying my new little electrics with my X-Lite, and it would be fun to put some of these old models with it,
I am just lamenting the fact that some things that worked well are forced into obsolescence.
Yes, I'd like a $12 parkflyer receiver too.
You can buy a FrSky transmitter for $75 that has 24 channels. Pretty good deal.
FrSky can not offer D support as it is not legal to do so around the globe. OK - they could in the FCC parts of the world, but it is pretty old tech. They do still offer the module option as do some others via MPM.
I think you are right though, maybe we can see about getting some cheaper receiver options again. While I do think FrSky receivers have very good prices compared to other reputable brands, there is always room for improvement.
The nice thing about FrSky, you certainly are not hurting for receiver choices!
p.s. Make sure you log into our site when buying, you might be surprised!
FrSky can not offer D support as it is not legal to do so around the globe. OK - they could in the FCC parts of the world, but it is pretty old tech. They do still offer the module option as do some others via MPM.
I think you are right though, maybe we can see about getting some cheaper receiver options again. While I do think FrSky receivers have very good prices compared to other reputable brands, there is always room for improvement.
The nice thing about FrSky, you certainly are not hurting for receiver choices!
p.s. Make sure you log into our site when buying, you might be surprised!
u2builder
Strong User
I wonder if Jumper Humper consumers know about "the bug". Or care? It would seem that these manufactures are cloning "the bug" in every receiver and radio they sell. Stuff happens, but it is a bit weird to mass market an entire system of products with a know defect that could cost someone a model, or much worse.
getsuyoubi
Active User
I don't think those cloners care
Konrad
Very Strong User
The OEMs, that's a given! Now the consumer, I don't think they, for the most part, are aware of the issue.
I'd like to see FrSky involved in a campaign warning all of the dangers of ACCST v1.X.XX. And use this campaign to drive home the point that FrSky developed the fix ACCST v2.1.x, assuming they actually did develop the fix.
I still have an issue that FrSky is still shipping ACCST RX with ACCST v1.. I for the life of me don't understand what FrSky does when it come to production releases of FW. Particularly those FW versions that have known safety issue. I wouldn't want to be a USA based company trying to pull this kind of crap.
Is this a cultural issue, were they are trying to save face by not changing the firmware? It might be seen as weak admitting one has made a mistake.
All the best,
Konrad
