Has anyone set up a paramotor in FrOS?

[Heidi_Q]

I'm inexperienced with air models. I picked up a paramotor and I'm having a bugger of a time trying to figure out the mixers for controlling both servos from one channel.
For turning, I need full throw of each servo on the J1. 100 to -100 on the left servo as the stick moves left of center, the same to the right as it moves right of center.
For flaring, I need both servos to travel simultaneously as the J2 travels from the center to the bottom.
I've set up the curves for steering and flaring (I think) but I can't seem to get them to operate simultaneously. It's one or the other. I can't get signal sent from one Channel to both servos. If that makes any sense.
The man that developed them has a great video as, "rc air adventures" on you tube but he's using open TX and I'd like to understand how to make it work with FrOS. I'm using an Horus X10s.
I downloaded the 150 page manual but it's for the first generation and some of the functions it shows are missing or folded into other functions on the X10S. Feeling a bit dumb, Any and all hints would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Heidi_Q]

Screw it. I'm going to install open TX.

 

[Diceman]

I am definitely not the person to ask about Open TX, but there are some good videos on YouTube how to set up your models on Open TX. I have used JR/Spektrum for over a decade so it is hard for me to change to something else. Good luck with your choice and thank you for posting up in here.

 

[Heidi_Q]

I am definitely not the person to ask about Open TX, but there are some good videos on YouTube how to set up your models on Open TX. I have used JR/Spektrum for over a decade so it is hard for me to change to something else. Good luck with your choice and thank you for posting up in here.

Thanks! I'll get there eventually ? hopefully I'll get it in the air soon.

 

[Diceman]

Make sure you get some pics to post when you fly!

 

[Konrad]

Screw it. I'm going to install open TX.

While that is the correct move. I don't think it is for the correct reasons.

Both OS's allow for V-tail/ Delta wing mixes. So In your situation moving to OpenTX will not gain you anything with the Paramotor.

There maybe a language issue but the set up should be easy enough to follow.

The Key to you Paramotor set up is to find the delta mix in your menu driven program FrOS.

OpenTX will be more of an object program where each servo will have its own set of mixes. (I think there are now set up wizards in OpenTx to set up Delta wings).

Edit:
See Kilrah's OpenTX file!

 

[Konrad]

I downloaded the 150 page manual but it's for the first generation and some of the functions it shows are missing or folded into other functions on the X10S. Feeling a bit dumb, Any and all hints would be greatly appreciated!

This is a flaw in the documentation. FrSky is notorious for this! You are not dumb because the manufacture doesn't understand how to write manuals.

 

[Kilrah]

The right mix for a paramotor isn't really a delta mix and you want servos to do full travel on half a stick's travel, and most canned systems fail badly at the task.

I happen to have one, believe my setup for it does just what you want (elev stick up has no effect). There's a 50% aileron DR on SD and throttle cut on SF.

 

[Heidi_Q]

The right mix for a paramotor isn't really a delta mix and you want servos to do full travel on half a stick's travel, and most canned systems fail badly at the task.

I happen to have one, believe my setup for it does just what you want (elev stick up has no effect). There's a 50% aileron DR on SD and throttle cut on SF.

Sweet, thank you! I'll try to get it installed tonight ?

 

[Konrad]

FYI, if you are still on FrOS.
That looks to be for an OpenTX OS.

 

[Heidi_Q]

I'm going to switch over. ?

 

[Nigel]

You won't regret it, at least in the long run. It can be a little rough in the beginning, but afterward, by far the most logical programming OS I've used.

 

[Heidi_Q]

Okay! Progress has been made and I thinkI've got it set up ? I will do more tinkering tomorrow to be sure but my mood is much improved re: radio and model!

 

[Heidi_Q]

Ok, I might have crashed it but it's fixed again and now I know how much wind is too much wind. ??

 

[Nigel]

Our experience was pretty similar.

What we thought it would be like:

What actually happened:

Our wing seemed to have taken a liking to Wayne in particular. It certainly didn't behave itself on the ground.

 

[Heidi_Q]

That's a beautiful wing! Did you make it?

 

[Nigel]

I wish, but no. It was a kit we demo'd a long time ago as we were thinking of bringing them in. It's not an inflatable wing (not sure what the terminology is here), so it collapses if you do anything approaching erratic. Flew like a sponge, we've brought it out a couple of times just to mess around. Then it usually ends up back in storage when we remember how poorly it flew. It is good fun though.

 

[Heidi_Q]

I guess sponges don't really have the most radical reputation ?. I'm hoping to get into a full size one and thought this might be a fun way to learn a bit about flight charecteristics without breaking my neck or the bank. I'll try and get Stephen to take some photos next time out. ?

 

[Haoyang Wang]

How do you make it fly faster? When I throttle up with mine, it just loops. Should I adjust the length of strings or something?

 

[Heidi_Q]

How do you make it fly faster? When I throttle up with mine, it just loops. Should I adjust the length of strings or something?

They aren't really a fast format. If you think of them like a pendulum the throttle just increases the angle of attack on the wing and causes it to climb and presumably slow down ultimately. I imagine the best speed would be obtained by trimming the throttle for straight level flight.
In full size wings you can adjust the trim tabs (changing the shape of the wing) to increase speed but even then 50mph is considered fast. It makes the wing less stable though.
I'm no professional but my understanding for what is worth.