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Follow the money

Konrad

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One of life's lesson I learned from Watergate was; follow the money.

When I bought my X9D+ 2014 there was a note on the sales page to donate some money to OpenTX as it was an open source project and not contracted with FrSky.

I was looking to upgrade my OpenTX OS. So I thought it would be proper to pay OpenTX for the code I was about to use. But I see this notice to give a donation to OpenTX is gone.

I have to ask is OpenTX now under a licensing agreement with FrSky and gets a percentage of the sale price for each radio sold with OpenTX installed?

I want to make sure that those that provide me with a service benefit from providing the service. So how does the OpenTX group get paid for the service they provide?
 
Again that was from the time period when I first bought my Taranis, 2014. Is the business environment still the same? I hope FrSky and OpenTX have come to a mutually agreed upon cost structure. I'd hate to think that such a key powerful sub system (the OS) to the FrSky radio still needs donations.

So is this still the current funding method? Or does OpenTX get paid as a function of radios sold or some other matrix.
 
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I have to admit that I have an ulterior motive asking this question.
In this thread guys that seem to have some insight as to what is going on inside FrSky all hint that there are changes coming. I'm trying to understand why.

OpenTX is head and shoulders above anything else on the market for an RC operating system. I can't for the life of me understand why FrSky would want to move away from OpenTX. There was/is a false impression that OpenTX is too complicated. That is why FrSky tried their hand at writing their own operating system known as FOS. For a myriad of reason this was a total failure.

OpenTX can be as simple to use as any other RC computer TX OS. (Ok, adding the dual rate and expo does add a step or two) Or it can be as complicated and liberating as one want's.

The only reason I can think of for FrSky wanting to move away from OpenTX is that they must now have to pay OpenTX for having OpenTX on their radio. To the bean counters eliminating this expense would lower the cost of the radio. Helping them "compete" with the new upstarts (AKA clones).

What I think FrSky fails to recognize is that in the past OpenTX was what differentiated them from most other RC OEMs. So much so that the market place was willing to overlook FrSky's many missteps. This was clustered mainly around their poor engineering with the introduction of new products. That is most FrSky products after say 2015 were improperly validated/ tested prior to being introduced into the market place.

Now in the last few years there are now a few radio OEMs that run OpenTX. This has taken away FrSky's advantage in the marketplace and brought into tighter focus the short comings of FrSky's engineering. FrSky is seeing this in lost sales. Combine this loss of uniqueness with the clones selling OpenTx radios at a 15% or so discount and FrSky sees a threat to their bottom line.

With the "X20" radio it looks like FrSky wants to blame OpenTX for the drop in FrSky sales. And to bolster FrSky's bottom line they want to shed any costs to OpenTX in the new radio [X20 (?)].

From my perspective this is false economy, shedding the strongest feature of your product because there is an out source charge associated with using it!

FrSky needs to learn that the use of OpenTX is their strongest selling point! True, other radio OEMs are now using OpenTX. So this is bringing the short comings of FrSky to light. In the past the market would over look the engineering short comings of FrSky, but no longer!

While OpenTX is no longer the unique province of FrSky it is still FrSky's strongest asset. What FrSky needs to do is address their weak points, mainly their engineering validation and product introduction process.

FrSky still has the innovative chops to stay ahead of the competition. But if the customer experience with new product introduction isn't improved. The customer will go to Jumper, and the like, for the same level of frustration but at a 15% discount.

FrSky you have a major problem but it's not the cost of OpenTX . It is your own corporate culture where the customer experiences isn't at the fore front of your business decisions.

Now I'm open to interpretations, other than cost, as to why FrSky wants to distance themselves from OpenTX.

All the best,
Konrad
 
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It is my understanding that an agreement of payment was established back at the very start of transmitter sales.
 
So with that donation request it looks like OpenTX was trying to double dip for payment. One from FrSky and another from the end user?
 
Yes thats exactly why Opentx wants all the clones on board as well. Simple ,they have more spending money.
 
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Konrad time for the chill pill.

OpenTX is a great project and I do not regret the donations I have made.
 
OpenTX always welcomes donations from whoever considers it's worthy to them. Been that way for close to a decade now. It's a donation, not a payment. Not required from any end user if they don't want.
 
And for my next maintaninace iteration (download) I plan on doing just that. There is a lot of inovation and upgrades that I'm happy to pay for. Like I said I want those that offer me a service, to benefit from the service. Making the jump from 2.1 to 2.3.X is huge. Basically a new radio rig.

My question was that in 2014 the notice read like OpenTX needed the donation. That is they weren't compensated by FrSky.
 
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That's making more sense, with publication lead and lag times. I purchased my first X9D+ amber screen in 2014 and the sales page still had the donation notice.

I assume that OpenTX is paid as a function of TX sales. Not by the number of revision released. So OpenTx would not benefit from me downloading the current revision. In my situation I would benefit, but OpenTX would not from the service.

I'm still at a loss as why FrSky would want to drop (per Scott Page's post) their strongest asset (OpenTX) on the X20. From where I sit this is suicide.

I think FrSky Tx sales have dropped because there is now real competition and it is actively marketing itself. Add to this that frSky never has gotten their engineering house in order (Lack of product validation) is a real killer. I for one have learned to wait 6 month or so before purchasing any new FrSky product.

The market has changed a lot since 2014, but I haven't seen FrSky change to properly address the new sales environment. I think frSky has changed from a firm that was a sole proprietor, to one driven by venture capitalists (the banks). As a result FrSky is a bit slow to adopt to the markets and has lost much of its customer focus trying to follow the bottom line.
 
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The problem I have with Konrad's "insights" is that they are not. They are conjecture. Many times he has made statements like, "(Lack of product validation)" when he knows nothing about how software works. I have been writing software for over 40 years, and I will state there is no such thing as bug free software. I am not trying to defend FrSky and say they have the best testing methodology out there. The truth is, I don't know, and neither does Konrad. He has also made statements in the past about why they made specific choices in hardware when again, he really has no idea why
OpenTx is still licensed under the GNU public license - https://github.com/opentx/opentx/blob/2.3/LICENSE and there still is a link to donate on the GItHub repository.

I also don't share Konrad's belief that keeping OpenTx off the new radios is suicide, in fact, I think it was a good move on their part. It certainly offers an equivalent amount of flexibilty and power with a lower barrier to entry (just my opinion).
Cheers!

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Yeah, he posted those messages 4 years ago. This is a rather old thread, and in hindsight I think Even Konrad would disagree with his own post on this subject. FrSky switching over to Ethos has been a godsend. FrSky hiring Bertrand full time was the best thing they could have done.
 
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