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FAA's new Remote ID and our glider sites!
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thenated0g
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Cant find dimesions yet, but its listed as 10 grams which is awesome
Based off the size of the gps antenna its gotta be tiny .
As an comparison here is a gps breakout board and its board dimensions on much larger pcb is 40mm x 40mm so i would guess the above is around 20x20 ish
Based off the size of the gps antenna its gotta be tiny .
As an comparison here is a gps breakout board and its board dimensions on much larger pcb is 40mm x 40mm so i would guess the above is around 20x20 ish
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JohnT
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That is looking promising. Like all electronics, the prices will start coming down as production ramps up and more competitors enter the fray.
I've seen many references to Bluetooth Connectivity. What is the interface going to be? I'm guessing to a cell phone, which will, hopefully, have an internet connection. Has anybody created anything in the way of Apps yet?
The FAQ gives this much info:
What mobile devices will be able to pick up the signal and what apps are compatible?
THE FT EZ ID transmits Bluetooth 4 and 5. Newer Android phones receive both Bluetooth 4 and 5. iPhone supports bluetooth 5 from iPhone X on. Bluetooth 5 transmits a much farther range (up to several kilometers) than Bluetooth 4.
That kind of sounds like we will still be waiting on an app.
John
I've seen many references to Bluetooth Connectivity. What is the interface going to be? I'm guessing to a cell phone, which will, hopefully, have an internet connection. Has anybody created anything in the way of Apps yet?
The FAQ gives this much info:
What mobile devices will be able to pick up the signal and what apps are compatible?
THE FT EZ ID transmits Bluetooth 4 and 5. Newer Android phones receive both Bluetooth 4 and 5. iPhone supports bluetooth 5 from iPhone X on. Bluetooth 5 transmits a much farther range (up to several kilometers) than Bluetooth 4.
That kind of sounds like we will still be waiting on an app.
John
thenated0g
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I dont think you as the user/pilot need to do anything other than set your faa stuff on first boot but i could be wrong. It does say something about software but basically all it needs to do is get the gps location on powerup and than just broadcast that gps coordinate out via the bluetooth the entire time its flying along with your faa number. So hopefully we can just set it up on purchase to be your info and than never have to do anything except give it power.
JohnT
Strong User
Even the FAA's web page does not really address that: https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/remote_id
They show Remote ID devices interfacing with phones/tablets. With Bluetooth/WiFi ranges, there is going to have to be something local pickup those signals and send them someplace they can be broadcast to general aviation.....
John
They show Remote ID devices interfacing with phones/tablets. With Bluetooth/WiFi ranges, there is going to have to be something local pickup those signals and send them someplace they can be broadcast to general aviation.....
John
thenated0g
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No its not for broadcast to general aviation. Its for someone on the ground to see a model doing something wrong and find out who it is and where they are. No communication to cloud. It sends the location of your takeoff point and maybe the planes location and your faa number via bluetooth. Someone would need a remote id app running on their phone within range of the bluetooth signal to find it.
Thats my current understanding of it.
Thats my current understanding of it.
thenated0g
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Oh yeah i forgot that their are 2 types of remote ID. The ones that broadcast out to the internet are prebuilt stuff like DJI. The modules we are talking about here are the ones for DIY builders. It only broadcasts locally as i stated in the previous post.
I have an RF engineer looking for work. I briefly suggested we look into a Remote ID solution, but then I came to my senses! I do not want to deal with the FAA's approval process! And honestly doubt I could come in under the $40 point all said and done and I REALLY do not want to be doing tech support for any more electronics do dads!!
thenated0g
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Not happy about it but paying $100 for one flitetest remote id module I move between planes wouldn't be too bad. Just have to figure out a mobile battery option. Maybe a small dcdc up converter.
Tahoed
Very Strong User
Just stick one in you're pocket. That should cover all your stuff.
Tahoed
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Just had 4 guys walk in with their E bikes today, all different manufactures. 3 of them just took a 20 second adjustment to regular bike maintenance. (none were purchased from our shop) The 4th one, all I had was good luck dude. There's not enough time to track down parts for their electronics, if they are actually available. Tech support for electric doodads sucks. I try to help out folks, but at some point....... I think Aloft does a great job as far as the electronics go.
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Tahoed
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We will have to see how it all works out. Personally, I don't see the FAA chasing us around.
Konrad
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Generally they don't. But if you are brought in front of the administrative courts you are assumed to be in violation: this is opposite of the criminal and civil courts. You must show compliance to the regulations. If you can't, you will be subject to the fines and penalties.
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Sadly what he said..
There are legal ways to make the Remote ID only visible to law enforcement. At least one some of the devices out there.
Also, they have no way to know if you had Remote ID functioning on any given flight unless they happen to have your aircraft from that flight.
There are legal ways to make the Remote ID only visible to law enforcement. At least one some of the devices out there.
Also, they have no way to know if you had Remote ID functioning on any given flight unless they happen to have your aircraft from that flight.
I am going to say it's about 30mm, the GPS is 15 and the board looks about 2 chips wide
thenated0g
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thenated0g
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Looks like the Flitetest RemoteID module went up for sale. I ended up preordering the spectrum one as its nice and compact and presale is like $69 i think.
Says it takes 3.3v-9v but still looking for amp draw. Would be nice to have a super small dedicated battery for it.
Says it takes 3.3v-9v but still looking for amp draw. Would be nice to have a super small dedicated battery for it.
thenated0g
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They will probably be backordered as people try to get them so I wanted to get one preordered.
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