DeHavilland Swallow PSS?

[Doc J]

Still mulling a PSS model...I didn't want to muscle in to Red's ME163 thread too much, though I already did so I thought I'd start a new one.

What about a Glass Fuselage/Foam wing - probably vac bagged - DeHavilland Swalow 108 PSS? Like the ME163 it has a fair bit of wing area. The Fuse could be moulded top to bottom instead of the usual side to side which would make the wings easy to attach/align with a simple carbon rod/pegs. Then, even at 50" span the whole disassembled model would fit into a pretty small narrow space.

The model if made would benefit from a slight change in the centre line position and wing root angle, and it probably wouldn't need it but I'd probably make a couple of vac-formed clear covers to go over the root air intakes just to clean it up a bit more.

Small, portable, simple to make, and with the right aeros should fly very well indeed.

What do you guys think?

Doc.

 

[Doc J]

This is a really nice clean airframe.

I'm getting quite attracted to it.

Doc.

 

[gp49]

This is a really nice clean airframe.

I'm getting quite attracted to it.

Doc.

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I will take two, one Swallow and one that's flying in the background (what is it?)

 

[Doc J]

I will take two, one Swallow and one that's flying in the background (what is it?)

Looks like a DeHavilland Venom.

Doc.

 

[Hawaii Sloper]

The Vampire.

I will take two, one Swallow and one that's flying in the background (what is it?)

The Vampire.

 

[gp49]

Looks like a DeHavilland Venom.

Doc.

The Vampire.

The Vampire.

Looks like the center section fuse is similar. @Doc J can we go with 'same, center section and just make it a option to build either one - or both (Swallow/Venom/vampire)?

 

[Red]

Dig it! Sign me up.

 

[Doc J]

Looks like the center section fuse is similar. @Doc J can we go with 'same, center section and just make it a option to build either one - or both (Swallow/Venom/vampire)?

Hold on guys - I never said I'd make a Vampire/venom.

Its overcomplicated for a simple PSS - I'm looking for KISS.

Doc.

 

[Doc J]

Dig it! Sign me up.

You are automatically signed up if I make the DH108 Swallow, Red.

You'll be testing it.

Hehehe

Doc.

 

[Hawaii Sloper]

Hold on guys - I never said I'd make a Vampire/venom.

Its overcomplicated for a simple PSS - I'm looking for KISS.

Doc.

Lol I was just replying that I thought the plane in the picture is the Vampire. I like the Swallow much better. it has cooler lines

 

[Doc J]

Looks like the center section fuse is similar. @Doc J can we go with 'same, center section and just make it a option to build either one - or both (Swallow/Venom/vampire)?

GP - the DH108 Swallow fuse might look similar to the Venom/vampire (which are almost identical to each other) but actually its pretty different. No chance of one fuse three models I'm afraid.

 

[Chris]

"No chance of one fuse three models I'm afraid."
Sure there is.... Just draw it that way...
I am going to assume these are shipping in a week.... Sooo... Ill take one of each.

 

[Mucksmear]

Oooh! I like.

Interestingly the the dh108 did share main fuselage with the vampire, but with an extended/longer section to accommodate the fin. Personally I like the blunter nose and all clear canopy of the 1st prototype. I’m guessing the pointer sleeker nose and partially more frame-clad canopy is the 2nd prototype

 

[Doc J]

Oooh! I like.

Interestingly the the dh108 did share main fuselage with the vampire, but with an extended/longer section to accommodate the fin. Personally I like the blunter nose and all clear canopy of the 1st prototype. I’m guessing the pointer sleeker nose and partially more frame-clad canopy is the 2nd prototype

Hey M - got any pics of the protoptype?

Thanks for the history - On the fuse, - I didnt know that, but it sure makes sense after the war, when there was a long period of austerity in the UK.

DeHav's still wanted to keep up development with the steady flow of exciting new info coming from a sacked German Aviation industry. Must have been a bit frustrating with all that good stuff and not much money to spend on developing it. My Dad worked for Hawkers and thats what he told me.

Good stuff!

Doc.

 

[gp49]

Here is some

De Havilland DH108 Swallow

De Havilland DH108 Swallow

www.baesystems.com

 

[Mucksmear]

That's the one! Very slightly different wing sweep angles between the 1st and 2nd prototypes too, according to wikipedia.
Interesting - this image shows the blunt nose but with more framing and cladding for the aft canopy section. I think I like the one with more see thru parts.

 

[Doc J]

Thanks guys!

Below is some more including a small model.

I think a fuselage moulded with a sideways seam line including those massive root/vertical stab fairings and plug in Balsa or other (Glass Vac bagged?) veneered wings and vertical stab would do it. Canopy section removable to allow radio access etc. With a good wing section and maybe flaperons? I dont think separate Ailerons/flaps would be easy to set up, but I'm not too sure. Any inputs welcome!

Doc.

 

[thenated0g]

No tail? im in

 

[Red]

Doc, I split the molds on this one horizontally. For sure makes the layup so much easier, like a boat.

 

[Doc J]

Doc, I split the molds on this one horizontally. For sure makes the layup so much easier, like a boat.

Gotcha - thanks Red. Like the DH 108 your BWB would be a bit of a PITA to mould vertically!

Cheers,

Doc.