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Corsa Maiden!!

Jake, you’re welcome!
you do what’s best for you, and over time get comfortable with the change in the feel (and the all round performance) with the progressive rearward movement of the cg point.
You do have a long way to go yet before it gets anywhere near nasty!

Cheers
Jonty
 
Sure looks like he has a good CG, but maybe that is just Jakes flying compensating.

Do keep in mind that Jake has the light weight layup on this Corsa, so ballast flying should probably be just wing ballast and limit the DSing loads.
 
Wayne said:
Sure looks like he has a good CG, but maybe that is just Jakes flying compensating.

Do keep in mind that Jake has the light weight layup on this Corsa, so ballast flying should probably be just wing ballast and limit the DSing loads.
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I'm surprised it goes so fast in the Light layup.

Doc.
 
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Never. Obviously when I'm watching Spencer or Bruce on YouTube that ain't easy when they're ripping around 400-500mph, but at a decent pace I was just curious what it was like and if it was overly difficult. Sometimes things look a lot easier than they actually are.

Oh... And if you think you're a beginner I don't even know what I would call myself lol. You don't look like a beginner.
 
Shoelace said:
Never. Obviously when I'm watching Spencer or Bruce on YouTube that ain't easy when they're ripping around 400-500mph, but at a decent pace I was just curious what it was like and if it was overly difficult. Sometimes things look a lot easier than they actually are.
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Ya those dudes are on another planet!

You need to get down here to practice! When its working good its actually really easy. Once you get it going it seems to almost fly itself with minimal input.
 
I have watched a number of excellent front side pilots struggle to DS. For sure start off with planes you are not too invested in. You can DS just about anything, even a Gentle Lady. Just like the front side, the conditions an slope will dictate the correct airframe for the mission.

Basically the trick is you have very little recovery altitude, and flying low will put the plane in the choppy stuff. With this said, I think it is something we should all have in our bag of tricks. It can make an un flyable day very flyable. You do not need to go fast. The plane Jake is flying is a light layup, not at all intended for DSing.
 
Wayne said:
I have watched a number of excellent front side pilots struggle to DS. For sure start off with planes you are not too invested in. You can DS just about anything, even a Gentle Lady. Just like the front side, the conditions an slope will dictate the correct airframe for the mission.

Basically the trick is you have very little recovery altitude, and flying low will put the plane in the choppy stuff. With this said, I think it is something we should all have in our bag of tricks. It can make an un flyable day very flyable. You do not need to go fast. The plane Jake is flying is a light layup, not at all intended for DSing.
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Cool. Thanks for the explanation. So are you saying that you could have barely enough lift to fly the frontside but the backside would be just fine? I imagine you'd have to have at least enough lift on the frontside to launch and get some altitude to dive into the backside, but that's confusing because if I could get that altitude, then I would imagine that I could just fly the frontside... I'm sure I'm sounding pretty dumb but is that what you meant when you said you could make an unflyable day flyable?
 
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Cool. Thanks for the explanation. So are you saying that you could have barely enough lift to fly the frontside but the backside would be just fine? I imagine you'd have to have at least enough lift on the frontside to launch and get some altitude to dive into the backside, but that's confusing because if I could get that altitude, then I would imagine that I could just fly the frontside... I'm sure I'm sounding pretty dumb but is that what you meant when you said you could make an unflyable day flyable?
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I think what Wayne means is times when the front side is flyable - but barely - i.e. no fun.

I dont DS but I have seen people struggle along the front side in iffy lift and from time to time make tentative forays with a backside sweep. More often than not they have soon been swooping along on DS lift. Not fast but fun as you can still do the limited aeros etc.- i.e. FUN!

Doc.
 
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We had a guy down south that was the master of low energy DS. We would not have enough lift to fly on the front side, but he could take the energy from the thrown launch to start a DS lap and build. I'm not saying this is easy, he is actually the only person I have seen do this. But he would do that with a 2 meter floater or an EPP wing and get things going. He could build enough energy to come out on the front side and tear it up for a pass or two before needing to circle some DS laps again. It was very entertaining. His laps were VERY low over a residential street onto a neighbors front yard and back to the slope edge. Yes, a sketchy flight area down south, but almost no traffic other than us.

This is a skill I would very much like to harness in my own flying. I doubt I'll ever be going for any insane speeds, but I do love the DS Acro concept. Get energy from the DS laps and then make art in the sky with that energy. :)
 
Wayne said:
We had a guy down south that was the master of low energy DS. We would not have enough lift to fly on the front side, but he could take the energy from the thrown launch to start a DS lap and build. I'm not saying this is easy, he is actually the only person I have seen do this. But he would do that with a 2 meter floater or an EPP wing and get things going. He could build enough energy to come out on the front side and tear it up for a pass or two before needing to circle some DS laps again. It was very entertaining. His laps were VERY low over a residential street onto a neighbors front yard and back to the slope edge. Yes, a sketchy flight area down south, but almost no traffic other than us.

This is a skill I would very much like to harness in my own flying. I doubt I'll ever be going for any insane speeds, but I do love the DS Acro concept. Get energy from the DS laps and then make art in the sky with that energy. :)
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Yeah, I think there could be some pretty sweet transitions you could make from ripping the backside onto the front.
 
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