kenp51d
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Wayne mentioned a Contender glider in the 4 sale section.
Did not figure it was appropriate to reply there.
I had a fiberglass body Contender when I was in the navy and stationed in San Diego. That thing was a real hoot. Flew it inland at Cowles Mountain.
I made my own wing which was wider than than stock. Also had a full flying rudder. Roll rates were what you'd expect of a wingeron ship. But the full lying rudder made nice stall turns possible. Pushing full rudder on the up line before all the speed was burned off would cause the plane to cock 45 degrees or so before the full stall then quickly pivot full vertical down. Doing a series of theses from a close horizontal pass back and forth would actually gain altitude when the winds were right which was pretty much anytime there was enough lift to fly in. A lot of the time when there was good lift outwards I would enter the lift zone in front of us from high altitude directly to the side in a dive. The level out in the box and and do a few high speed rolls, followed by a vertical climb with more high speed rolls before a full rudder kick over near the top and another diving entry into the box.
That maybe how I had my second mid air. I sort of went thru my buddy's plane. To be fair we were both doing the same maneuvers and ended up go opposite directions. His plane did not have the same performance as mine But we sure were having a blast.
When the lift was low close in I would just venture out away from the mountain face. Always found strong lift out there, fly out like you would a power plane.
There were 2 problems flying from there. Where the heck to land. Really rough ground at a slope, no flat areas and plenty of brush to find. The other problem SNAKES, RATTEL SNAKES. The fiber glass carbon fiber wing saved me once hiking up the north trail. I had the wing panels attached to have less to carry. My budding in close trail. For some reason I never figured out I shove the plane wing down in front of me. A big rattle snake bounced off of it. I jumped ran upwards, my buddy down, then we chucked rocks at where the snake had been. Continued on up to where we flew at and got ready to fly. That's when I discovered I'd be flying with wet pants. This was before cell phones were common and we neither had one. If that bad boy had bit me I would have been in trouble.
I also used to go by myself right up the face of the mountain for the sheer exercise. Charging as hard as I could once or twice like that was a heck of a work out. I'd take my dogs. One was a chocolate lab/dobbi and the other a brindle lab/dane (he was a big boy). Never encountered a snake then. They were off leash and took point. and I was in trail. They seemed to know where it was safe. The lab/dobbi had no problem climbing the mountain, but there was a place or 2 were I had to push the lab/dane up a particular steep point. I sure was hoping he wouldn't fart then.
It was my buddy from the power flying site (San Diego Weed Whackers) That invited to go with him after a morning of power flying. First time hooked me.
I still had the wing from the Pacific Ace I had built on deployment during the first gulf war. I built it while we were swing on the hook in the mine field off of Kuwait during mine clearing ops. I learned to fly RC with it. When I was learning to fly I often got 30 and more minutes of flight time, thermaling dead stick, even an hour. So I made a new body and tail and had it ready for the next week end. I was hooked. Fly power in the morning, then slope in the afternoon.
I did not post this in Wayne's post, because it was in the classified section. And I was not interested in the glider. Moving to Missouri so I don't see slope gliders in my future and I sure am not physically able to to climb a mountain any more. Maybe a thermal glider. We will see.
But the wingeron configuration would possibly make a very entertaining power plane.
If this doesn't belong on here Wayne, nuke it.
Ken
Did not figure it was appropriate to reply there.
I had a fiberglass body Contender when I was in the navy and stationed in San Diego. That thing was a real hoot. Flew it inland at Cowles Mountain.
I made my own wing which was wider than than stock. Also had a full flying rudder. Roll rates were what you'd expect of a wingeron ship. But the full lying rudder made nice stall turns possible. Pushing full rudder on the up line before all the speed was burned off would cause the plane to cock 45 degrees or so before the full stall then quickly pivot full vertical down. Doing a series of theses from a close horizontal pass back and forth would actually gain altitude when the winds were right which was pretty much anytime there was enough lift to fly in. A lot of the time when there was good lift outwards I would enter the lift zone in front of us from high altitude directly to the side in a dive. The level out in the box and and do a few high speed rolls, followed by a vertical climb with more high speed rolls before a full rudder kick over near the top and another diving entry into the box.
That maybe how I had my second mid air. I sort of went thru my buddy's plane. To be fair we were both doing the same maneuvers and ended up go opposite directions. His plane did not have the same performance as mine But we sure were having a blast.
When the lift was low close in I would just venture out away from the mountain face. Always found strong lift out there, fly out like you would a power plane.
There were 2 problems flying from there. Where the heck to land. Really rough ground at a slope, no flat areas and plenty of brush to find. The other problem SNAKES, RATTEL SNAKES. The fiber glass carbon fiber wing saved me once hiking up the north trail. I had the wing panels attached to have less to carry. My budding in close trail. For some reason I never figured out I shove the plane wing down in front of me. A big rattle snake bounced off of it. I jumped ran upwards, my buddy down, then we chucked rocks at where the snake had been. Continued on up to where we flew at and got ready to fly. That's when I discovered I'd be flying with wet pants. This was before cell phones were common and we neither had one. If that bad boy had bit me I would have been in trouble.
I also used to go by myself right up the face of the mountain for the sheer exercise. Charging as hard as I could once or twice like that was a heck of a work out. I'd take my dogs. One was a chocolate lab/dobbi and the other a brindle lab/dane (he was a big boy). Never encountered a snake then. They were off leash and took point. and I was in trail. They seemed to know where it was safe. The lab/dobbi had no problem climbing the mountain, but there was a place or 2 were I had to push the lab/dane up a particular steep point. I sure was hoping he wouldn't fart then.
It was my buddy from the power flying site (San Diego Weed Whackers) That invited to go with him after a morning of power flying. First time hooked me.
I still had the wing from the Pacific Ace I had built on deployment during the first gulf war. I built it while we were swing on the hook in the mine field off of Kuwait during mine clearing ops. I learned to fly RC with it. When I was learning to fly I often got 30 and more minutes of flight time, thermaling dead stick, even an hour. So I made a new body and tail and had it ready for the next week end. I was hooked. Fly power in the morning, then slope in the afternoon.
I did not post this in Wayne's post, because it was in the classified section. And I was not interested in the glider. Moving to Missouri so I don't see slope gliders in my future and I sure am not physically able to to climb a mountain any more. Maybe a thermal glider. We will see.
But the wingeron configuration would possibly make a very entertaining power plane.
If this doesn't belong on here Wayne, nuke it.
Ken
