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AMA & STEM

Wayne

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So I was reading my EAA (Experimental Aviation Association) magazine last night and I see they have a little article about the EAA teaming up with the AMA to help with STEM programs at schools. I think this is great, this is something we like to help out with at Aloft Hobbies where we supply a number to STEM programs with discounts and assistance. So I read the article and I am really rather let down. The summary of the article is that the AMA teamed up with Horizon Hobbies to sell a SIG Kadet kit and I guess a lot of the gear it will need for only $500. I was blown away that this is the solution they came up with. Some of it makes sense, but a 6 foot wingspan wooden kit? I thought the hobby moved on from that 20 years ago.. And still not sure what they are getting for $500.

I understand that they want the kids to build a plane, and a plane of that scale is similar to a small GA plane in structure. That does make sense to me. But I do wonder if this is the correct solution.

They also made a point of it being an American design and American built, but that only applies to the airplane kit. I doubt anything else in the package is made here. (radio, motor, esc, battery..)

Most of the STEM programs we have worked with do not have the budget for $500 packages. They have much more meager budgets, sometimes funding is from the local volunteers that help provide the STEM program. That seems to be the case for our local STEM at our high school. (Yet, they are building a full scale plane that is nearly done and then they will start flight training with the plane while they start building the next plane.)

I know I am very keen to introduce new folks to our RC pasion via free training. We are in discussion with our local club. I think we will be spitting out a new video soon that outlines the process we use for initial training. We are eager to learn from others also, with the hopes of inspiring others to do the same in their local areas. I guess I really should start a new thread for this subject.. OpenTX is really great with the abilities it gives us for making initial flights so much easier and safer. More on that later I guess.

Anyhow, I'd like to know more about what the AMA $500 STEM package includes. If it works and gets more young folks into aviation, then I am fully behind it. If it is a money grab from STEM programs with little in return then SHAME!

-Wayne
 
Is STEM an organization? Last time I looked it was just an acronym for Science, Technology, Engineering and Math. Yep, where would one spend $500? And how many schools have this kind of money left over after covering Reading, Writing, Arithmetic and any federally mandated social adjustment programs.

You have several radios that sell for under a $100. I think your Slow Stick would be great for teaching mathematics (wing loading, power loading) and make a great flight trainer. Electric power could teach about Ohms law and Maxwell's laws. Also as it is mainly plastic it can be used to about teach composites. (I can't think of when the last wooden airframe was type certified. The last new design from full size aviation was a plastic airplane, the Boeing 787).

I think you could supply a school STEM program for half the cost even at full retail. And have a program that would have a lot more relevance to today's real world.

All the best,
Konrad
 
FliteTest has been doing STEM program for all grade levels for a while.


I hope both programs succeed and get a lot of young kids of the 'screen' and into our hobby. My personal, small, goal has been to get my younger son, Alex off the 'screen'. So far so good, but it's sure more then $500 :rolleyes:
 
Yep, Flight Test has done a lot in this aspect! They came to the Bay Area for Flight Fest and not So Cal because of the active STEM programs up this way.

I must say that I think it is very odd that very few schools in the USA teach any form of electronics. So many make a big deal out of our tech sector, but the reality is most all of those people probably had to pursue the interest on their own to get the knowledge. I am amazed at how many people are clueless about even basic electrical. This is why I like the STEM programs..
 
HUM.
Flite Test, These are the same guys that shilled for Hobby King and loved to show products bouncing across the field?

Maybe they have changed and matured. The last time I dealt with them they thought that theology (god's will) was a valid explanation for flight. I'm happy to see somebody in the organization places some value on science and engineering.

All the best,
Konrad
 
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I must say that I think it is very odd that very few schools in the USA teach any form of electronics. So many make a big deal out of our tech sector, but the reality is most all of those people probably had to pursue the interest on their own to get the knowledge. I am amazed at how many people are clueless about even basic electrical. This is why I like the STEM programs..
I'm a product of the US public education system of the 60's and 70's. I don't recall schools back then having much of a curriculum for engineering pursuits other than algebra and calculus. Yes, there were a few shop classes left, but they were being cut by the budgetary process. I was fortunate to have a family that actively encouraged their children to explore the sciences even if it meant a few fires and bad smells! :eek: :rolleyes:

All the best,
Konrad
 
That is kind of my point. When I went to school in the 80s the school district was trying to shut down all of the shop classes. They managed to kill the sheet metal shop, and kept trying to defund the electronics, but our electronics club was very strong and our teacher was very good at keeping the program funded. Very much not the norm.

This electronics club restored and maintained pinball machines and some early video games and those were allowed to be used during breaks and lunch. This generated a huge income and gave a lot of teaching moments. Also some of the very best maintained games you ever saw. The same club started buying early Apple II computers and setting up their own little lab, eventually that grew into the computer lab, one of the first in a public school. My brother and I got our introduction and love for electronics as a result of this one teacher that had started all of this. He had a huge impact on all of us. This is how my brother ended up working in Aerospace with a security clearance at such a young age.

To me that is the potential of STEM programs. Our electronics teacher was a one man STEM program.

Flight Test - they have a few guys that really understand things, then they have their video personalities.. Sometimes the same guy, but very different when that camera is running. Like the video side of things or not, they do attract a lot of people to aviation.
 
So much of our lives were shaped by the "good" teachers. I had a few bad ones, but it is the good one that really had an impact on my life's directions.

I understand that the video was as much for entertainment and shilling for Hobby King as it was for getting across information. My issue was again the moderation policies behind their forum.
 
I'm sure the forum is fine for the 99% of folks. But as I hold management to a higher standard I often am at odds with ill defined policies and practices! As you know I don't have any reverence for management. Some might say I have issues with authority!

I do!

All the best,
Konrad
 
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