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3D Printed Glider Seagull

Hum, these are all oversized (lighter wing loading) and all are speculating as to the performance gains without the servo.

Having set up and flown the 100% EDF I will say that if one follows the placement of the rudder servo as I’ve shown, the rudder action is easy and smooth. Also I wouldn’t dream of setting up this 100% EDF gull without the rudder function working.
 
sharing a file previously posted in the "Planeprint Pilots" FB forum , by user Nick Leber :
OTX mixing scheme for the EDF version.
( of course, it is the same for the glider version, in this case the CH1 and Thr Mixes may be left in or removed )


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@thenated0g - Pretty sure he had mixed the ailerons to add rudder. This is the default settings for the plane. If he did that like I told him, then you would have been flying with rudder.

Here is my best answer. Yes, it will fly without rudder, but it will not fly as well, and not look as much like a real bird. I tend to fly mine with just rudder and elevator when I want to make it look like a real bird. Or better yet, just small rudder inputs.

The Seagulls can fly fast, they can do basic acrobatics, they can do inverted passes, but they look kind of dumb doing those things. I want mine to look and fly like the real thing, and for me rudder is key to that.

I have honestly not played with the mixing much, just what the designer spec'd out in the instructions. Fine tuning differential should help avoid issues with unwanted yaw inputs from the ailerons, it is very possible to get better performance via some tuning.

I had a super light stock bird (the one I sold) and I have a 60% "baby" bird that has higher wing loading. They seemed to fly about the same, but the bigger was a little more relaxing in flight.

Anyhow, they are a ton of fun.. Super easy to paint too, a bit of black spray paint will do the trick for the wings. Light misting until you get the shading you want. Takes less than a minute!
 
@Wayne, I am getting ready for my 3D Printed Seagull build.
In preparation, I read from some of the comments in the YouTube videos that some people have flown the Seagull with elevons only ( i.e. 2 servos ) ,
saving the weight and "complication " of the tail movement and servo.
Any opinion on this ?

...Here is my best answer. Yes, it will fly without rudder, but it will not fly as well, and not look as much like a real bird. I tend to fly mine with just rudder and elevator when I want to make it look like a real bird. Or better yet, just small rudder inputs.

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thanks again !
 
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assembled the glider Seagull.
I am ready for a glide test at the neighbor's lawn.
Installed 3 Corona 12.5g MG servos , 2S 1200mAh (60g) LiPo , BEC and FrSky 4Ch RX.
My surprise is that to get the CG correct, the model is at about 583g AUW.
Is this a bit too much weight?

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assembled the glider Seagull.
I am ready for a glide test at the neighbor's lawn.
Installed 3 Corona 12.5g MG servos , 2S 1200mAh (60g) LiPo , BEC and FrSky 4Ch RX.
My surprise is that to get the CG correct, the model is at about 583g AUW.
Is this a bit too much weight?

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Sounds about right for an Aloft print.

I find that a 6 foot high launch often doesn’t tell me much about the trim state of such high wing loaded models.

I like to give my models their test flight from the top of a cliff. This gives me time to build up air speed and gives me time to set the elevator trim.
 
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