3D Printed Glider Seagull

[RafaelAvila]

And Here we go again Just Started
Thanks for Planeprint.com for providing the Stl Files
you can purchase your own at https://www.planeprint.com/product-page/seagull-glider-version

and i have started with a really nice idea.. when we deal with a lot parts to print is good to have a check list. for what you have done and what you need to print.
so i have make a file in excel and printed to check all the parts

And thats how its should looks like when its done

 

[thenated0g]

thats pretty awesome. cant wait for the rangers to come get mad at us at sunset for disturbing the "wildlife" lol

 

[RafaelAvila]

thats pretty awesome. cant wait for the rangers to come get mad at us at sunset for disturbing the "wildlife" lol

all of us here will have one, so will be probably 5 flying at same time in SUNSET, imagine that hahaha

 

[Konrad]

I recently saw some of the sub-assemblies. I’m really impressed at how light these are turning out and what a nice finish you are getting with the file and setup.

All the best,
Konrad

 

[RafaelAvila]

I recently saw some of the sub-assemblies. I’m really impressed at how light these are turning out and what a nice finish you are getting with file and setup.

All the best,
Konrad

yes we using LW PLA for the wings and Normal PLA for te Boddy its come out really nice

 

[Raymond Gaskins]

Rafael,
I am following your 3d printing with great interest. How does the light weight PLA compare with regular PLA in strength and flexibility?
I have finished printing the wings for my ASK-14 and am starting on the fuselage and using polymaker + PLA. I was pleased with the printing of the wings with the exception of the wingtips (which did not interface with the outermost wing section correctly).
The red PLA+ I am using for the fuselage does not do well so far with the identical profile 3 settings used for the white PLA, so I am playing around with the wing test file to try for better results before proceeding.
I have the edf version of the seagull and will start on that next. I will be monitoring your build with interest.
Raymond

 

[thenated0g]

I'll definitely have to chase you guys around with my hawk.

 

[RafaelAvila]

Rafael,
I am following your 3d printing with great interest. How does the light weight PLA compare with regular PLA in strength and flexibility?
I have finished printing the wings for my ASK-14 and am starting on the fuselage and using polymaker + PLA. I was pleased with the printing of the wings with the exception of the wingtips (which did not interface with the outermost wing section correctly).
The red PLA+ I am using for the fuselage does not do well so far with the identical profile 3 settings used for the white PLA, so I am playing around with the wing test file to try for better results before proceeding.
I have the edf version of the seagull and will start on that next. I will be monitoring your build with interest.
Raymond

ill print 4 Seagull in Glider version. and 2 in EDF version everything going good so far.. keep in mind. every filament brand, color and kind need to use a little be more love to get the perfect settings.
work a little on your settings and you will get great results.
I can print small samples of what I'm going to print and I'm polishing them as settings, and once I have the perfect settings I save them in the cura profile with name brand color temperature and speed used

 

[RafaelAvila]

I'll definitely have to chase you guys around with my hawk.

Oh man ill make something in the seagull to poop in your hawk.

 

[Konrad]

In my immature days, I did much the same in my Bird Works Sea Gull using shaving cream and a servo operated plunger. I had issues with the fecal matter making a clean break from the bottom of the fuselage.

 

[thenated0g]

Found some pipe cleaners that should work for talons

 

[RafaelAvila]

4 Nose done!!!

 

[Konrad]

How long did that take? I assume that was done using 4 printers.

 

[RafaelAvila]

Only one printer started yesterday its take 4hours and 10 minutes each nose and yes! I wake up in the middle of the night to put more to print

 

[Raymond Gaskins]

Good morning Rafael,
I am about halfway through printing the parts for my PlanePrint ASK-14 and have run into some issues which is starting to cause me to tug on my hair and would appreciate some advice from you as you are printing parts for the same plane and stl files.
I am using an AnyCubic Vyper with the latest firmware and build. I believe I have it dialed in properly.
1. I got great results with the wings using PolyTerra white PLA Plus after adjusting and printing the PLA wing test for 14 iterations.
Nozzle temp = 221
Flow = 93
Fan =38
Retraction distance = 3.0
Retraction Speed = 80
Extra Prime = 0.325
Still had a few surface pinpoint holes in the wing but none in the test print.
The wingtips in the STL file I purchased required a brim on the build plate or they would slip resulting in a misprint. With the brim trimmed there is no flange to interface with the last section of wing. When I imported the STL file into Cura and before slicing, the orientation of the wingtip is different than on the PlanePrint website, but I did not change this in Cura as I do not know how (yet).
2. Efforts with the red PolyTerra PLA+ were different. I started out with the best results I got with the white PLA+ profile P3 and adjusted over 2.0 wing test prints. I increase print temp to as high as 225, extra prime amount to as high as 0.4 and as low as 0.25 and extra prime distance to as low as 3.0 and as high as 3.5.
I got the best results with all settings the same as the white PLA with the exception of having the extra prime amount increased to 0.35.
Results looked vey good with these settings for the wing test print.
However, the PlanePrint prints for the fuselage are not so good. The spinner is awful with the tip having holes. The fuselage is acceptable so far but there are many pin prick holes.
The rudder has a small defect at the top.
I am enclosing jpgs to illustrate my concerns.
Any help you or others may render is appreciated.
I had never tried 3d printing until about 4 weeks ago, but I am determined to learn and am a perfectionist at heart.
Additionally, I just received my Prusa M3 and am unboxing it and look forward to using it.
Thank you for your interest and help.
Raymond Gaskins

 

[Raymond Gaskins]

A few more jpgs of the spinner and top of rudder showing defects near the end of the prints.
Raymond

 

[Raymond Gaskins]

Rafael,
Any chance of some help here as requested above. Don’t want to bug you but need some advice.
Thanks,
Raymond

 

[Chris]

Raphael will be in shortly. But it looks to me like the printer is under extruding... I am not sure how to fix this in Cura though.
It might be that the nozzle temp is too cool. Looks like it is catching while extruding...

 

[RafaelAvila]

Good morning Rafael,
I am about halfway through printing the parts for my PlanePrint ASK-14 and have run into some issues which is starting to cause me to tug on my hair and would appreciate some advice from you as you are printing parts for the same plane and stl files.
I am using an AnyCubic Vyper with the latest firmware and build. I believe I have it dialed in properly.
1. I got great results with the wings using PolyTerra white PLA Plus after adjusting and printing the PLA wing test for 14 iterations.
Nozzle temp = 221
Flow = 93
Fan =38
Retraction distance = 3.0
Retraction Speed = 80
Extra Prime = 0.325
Still had a few surface pinpoint holes in the wing but none in the test print.
The wingtips in the STL file I purchased required a brim on the build plate or they would slip resulting in a misprint. With the brim trimmed there is no flange to interface with the last section of wing. When I imported the STL file into Cura and before slicing, the orientation of the wingtip is different than on the PlanePrint website, but I did not change this in Cura as I do not know how (yet).
2. Efforts with the red PolyTerra PLA+ were different. I started out with the best results I got with the white PLA+ profile P3 and adjusted over 2.0 wing test prints. I increase print temp to as high as 225, extra prime amount to as high as 0.4 and as low as 0.25 and extra prime distance to as low as 3.0 and as high as 3.5.
I got the best results with all settings the same as the white PLA with the exception of having the extra prime amount increased to 0.35.
Results looked vey good with these settings for the wing test print.
However, the PlanePrint prints for the fuselage are not so good. The spinner is awful with the tip having holes. The fuselage is acceptable so far but there are many pin prick holes.
The rudder has a small defect at the top.
I am enclosing jpgs to illustrate my concerns.
Any help you or others may render is appreciated.
I had never tried 3d printing until about 4 weeks ago, but I am determined to learn and am a perfectionist at heart.
Additionally, I just received my Prusa M3 and am unboxing it and look forward to using it.
Thank you for your interest and help.
Raymond Gaskins

Hello @Raymond Gaskins I'm sorry for the delay, I'm so busy here with all The projects. so I don't have much time as I like to have to.
as i mention before every printer is different and every filament can take different settings, so its hard to figure it out, without have it in hands. but ill try to do my best with all the information's and the pictures you send.

after a quick look at your pictures I can probably suggest to change some parameter as you are using bolden tube
the retraction speed to something between 25 and 50 mm/s
in a bolden tube retraction distance should be between 2 and 6 mm ( prusa takes 6.7mm)
and the fan to something between 70% ~ 100%
extra prime need to be adjust after you do the print test
the surface points should be disappear after you increase the fan speed
printing speed not exceed 60mm/s

let me know if I forgot something and keep me posted.

 

[Raymond Gaskins]

Thank you so much; I will try this tonight and let you know. I value your advice.
Raymond